

I can up load some pics later this afternoon if need be

Thanks Andrew, great advice, that makes perfect sense.I have heard that the way to go with Junipers and I'm guessing the same could very well apply to Cedars is that the primary and secondary branches create the profile when viewed from the top, and that the tertiary branches are used to create the profile from the side. If you want your branch structure visible (which is a styling choice up to you entirely), that means primaries down, secondaries slightly upwards from there and tertiaries between 45 degrees and straight up making the pads. Don't know if that makes any sense, and having said it, I think it is very much a function of the style you are trying to achieve.
Andrew Legg