Superthrive Vs. Seasol

[Leigh Taafe]

There are many arguments for and against both these products, I have seen all the posts before. What I would like to know is how many people use Superthrive and how many use Seasol, or how many use both, or neither!

So here is a poll.

[aaron_tas]

both

[Asus101]

Seasol is cheap enough for me.

[PeterW]

I use both......but only until my ST runs out. Then its Rootone for me and i will still use Seasol to water freshly collected material for a month or two.
Peter

[Leigh Taafe]

Asus101 on Today, 16:55

Seasol is cheap enough for me.

Asus, you will use alot more Seasol with each application than Superthrive.

If you get a large enough bottle (of course, you will need to be able to use it) the larger expense per purchase will be worth it in the long run, as Superthrive is a fair amount more concentrated than Seasol.

This doesn't necessarily mean that Superthrive is better than Seasol. Just assuming they were just as good as one another, Superthrive will go a longer way, pound for pound, than Seasol.

Cheers,
Leigh.

[Asus101]

last time I brought seasol it was a 20lt for 33$.

[Dave54]

Hi guys,
For what it's worth, I use both. I was using Seasol before I purchased SUPERthrive and I noticed the difference immediately I started using the latter.
To beginners be careful using SUPERthrive as a folia feed on Elms as a slight overdose, will cause overnight defoliation.
Seasol is deadly on Banksia in my experience.
Maybe I'm overdoing it but I use both products mixed with whatever fert I am using at the time.
cheers
Dave

[Bretts]

Try to slip this one in while I was away Ledanta
Seriously it is refreshing to see a discusion about this that looks into how we can use it instead of wether we should.

I did a few sums about dilutions comparing superthrive to seasol and came up with this.
600ml of superthrive makes 400 litres
600ml of seasol makes 216 litres for transplanting. 3 liters per 400 litres for stressed plants (at 70ml per 9 litres, recomended 40-100ml per 9 litres) Intrestingly it states to apply to soil(so i guess it should not be applied to the leaves) two applications one week apart then fortnightly scaling back dilution.
600ml of nurserymans brand plant starter makes 300 liters. (an auxin based transplant tonic)

This is at recomended transplant or reviving strength. Super thrive reckomends a one of dose at this strenght and then back to 100ml to 400 litres from time to time. Seasol recomends this dose when transplanting and the same a week later. Plant starter recomends same dose every week for 3-4 weeks.

A quick check puts 1 litre cost at
Superthrive $100
Seasol $8-10 ?
Nurserymans brand plant starter $10

I was unable to work out the comparison % of active ingredients Auxin) as two are in Grams per litre and superthrive is a percentage of volume.

I would put seasol and superthrive in close quarters as auxin based soil conditioner Seasol also has Cytokinins though while Plant starter is an auxin based only product.

I will be intrested to do a litle experiment with the 70ml per 9 litres of seasol.

Some links
http://www.seasol.com.au/
http://www.superthrive.com/gallon.html
This multicrop plant starter is pretty much like mine
http://www.multicrop.com.au/accessor.htm

I have been using the plant starter for drastic transplants and seasol as a more general tonic.

[daiviet_nguyen]

This is how I use it, I do not know if this is the best way:

1. Seasol -- on transplant. I usually mix directly into the new soil.

2. Superthrive -- about two coffee spoon per 10 liters of water, on established trees.

I have been told by the Bunnings people that Seasol is like a medicine not a supplement food.

I must admit I did not read much on either of those. Other people use them, and I copy on
recommendations

[Bretts]

Seasol -- on transplant. I usually mix directly into the new soil.

Can you explain this, I am not sure what you mean?

Seasol has little to no nutrient value. It even states it on the bottle so does superthrive. Plant starter has no nutrients or trace elements.

[Asus101]

I soak olive stumps up to a week in seasol.

[Leigh Taafe]

by daiviet_nguyen on Today, 21:25

2. Superthrive -- about two coffee spoon per 10 liters of water, on established trees.

That seems to be alot, how do you find this mix works for your trees? Do they grow like mad?

Cheers,
Leigh.

[Pup]

In 1989 Bob Asquith went to America for a holiday and the lucky bastard got to do a workshop with the Late John Y Naka.
At that time they were promoting Superthrive. All participants were given a 100ml bottle to try.
He tried it. Then started importing it . He could not keep up with demand.
The hydroponics and wacky backy people could not get enough.I have been using it ever since. I have used it at the rate of 1 drop per litre for collected tree watering for one month, then half the rate, then when new shoots start I ease up to once per fortnight with fertiliser.
Seasol is used to enrich the soil and help to retain nutrients!!. I also use it as a mild tonic on susceptible plants, like grass trees. Pup

I wonder if Jim is lurking

[Hector Johnson]

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[Asus101]

From looking into papers on it, I dont think anyone has done a full proper study into the effects or lack there of. There are many many variables when scientifically studying such products.