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Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 12:24 am
by Dumper
Here a juniper that i recently got my hands on.
first stage of developing. all comments and suggestion (positive or neg) are welcome

John
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Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 5:54 am
by anttal63
There is no doubt #1 is the best front. Has the best movement and also the position of the live vein to the future shari up the trunk. Very nice dump should be a good one! :D ;) 8-)

Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 6:52 am
by craigw60
Thats a very nice tree, much better than the last one you posted, lovely trunk flow in the first pic.
Craig

Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 7:18 am
by Handy Mick
Nice tree dumped, for sure pic1, where did you get this one? Is there a story? :)

Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 8:40 am
by FlyBri
Gday Dumper & Co!

As usual, this time of year sees my interest turn to the conifers: it's too early to do any serious work on my deciduous trees, and I'm letting my native trees run. I've only got a few Junis, but your specimen makes me want to hit the nurseries with a full wallet! I've never encountered Sabina stock this thick/mature. Where does one find such material in Melbourne and surrounds?

Thanks for sharing, and please keep us posted!

Fly.

Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 8:53 am
by Dumper
Hi all

I got this stock from Bonsai Farm. Just keep your eye open cause there's a lot of hidden treasure to buy

:)

Pic no. 1 remind me of sonic the hedgehog :) i might be leaning on that for the possible front too.

Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 11:42 am
by Mojo Moyogi
Hi Dumper, I like front number 1 as well.
I hope this tree goes really well for you, I have 80 large sabinas at my place that were planted in the field from 1984-87, I plan to dig them this coming spring if my greenhouse is ready, they are a bunch of shari riddled twisted things, I plan to spend at least 5 years getting the foliage sorted, but they could be great one day.

Has anyone else grown J.sabina, I have read that in Europe they are regarded highly and can be comparable to Shimpaku.

Cheers,
Mojo

Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 12:09 pm
by NathanM
Wow, that's a great specimen, Dumper!!
Agreed, pic01 is a great front.

Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 12:33 pm
by Pup
Looks like I am going to be the odd one out. Number two if you tilt to the left, you have a live vein a much better taper, and continuity of line.

In number one you have an abrupt curve line at the top, it does have a pleasing line, which however needs a lot more carving.

If it was mine I would go with number two tilted.
A second look has me even more convinced. The tachiagari ( the movement from the nebari to the first branch ) moves away from the viewer.
Which is not a pleasing affect, and as Lindsay has suggested what is the movement of the nebari.

Cheers :) Pup

Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 3:25 pm
by lindsay farr
have you investigated the roots below the pot. I remember thinking of the wind when you selected this sabina. The tree grew at our fattening farm for about 3 decades. One year before I dug it I cut it back hard ( to no green growth) in spring
Then dug it the following year in winter ( with new shoots).
Good luck with it Dumper.

Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 3:42 pm
by Jamie
hi lindsay, this has been grown well, one thing you have said has me absolutely stumped though, you cut it back to no green growth? does that mean a bare trunk, i would of been for certain it would of carked it?

J. :D

Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 4:53 pm
by Dumper
Lindsay i did check the root to get a windswept on it. the roots are mostly all leading to the other side which is hard to make it windswept.
i'll leave it like that for the time being. let more growth happening first and really decide what to do.

i like it to be windswept too. will be my first.

John

Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 6:35 pm
by Jamie
hey mate,

i will get a virt done for you as soon as i can!

i reckon this is going to be a corker!

J. :D

Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 6:47 pm
by Dumper
thanks jamie!!

Re: Juniper sabina estimated 30yrs

Posted: June 8th, 2010, 7:11 pm
by miyagiman
hi dumper, i have to agree with pup on photo 2. the reverse taper of the trunk in photo 1 is why i lean to the 2nd photo as a front. photo 3 has possibilities also. cheers, miyagiman.