Japanese black pine 2

[Jamie]

hey guys

i recently aquired a rather nice JBP, it has been with the previous owner for fifteen years, im not sure how old it was when he got it, but he has done very well with structure and design, i have basically just wired and placed. cant say much more about it, i like it and i like where it is heading! the apex wont be so pointy, the branch going up i am using as a bit of a sacrifice to help regain a bit of strength, no branches were cut off in the process as i wanted everything that was there to get it super healthy and growing strong, in a year, maybe two i will begin needle reduction. the needles at the moment are about an inch and a half long.
the other thing i forgot, its a custom made pot too!

sizes are, trunk 35mm above the nebari, the nebari streches a bit over 100mm, height is about 300mm.

when i get a decent camera again i will get left right and top shots.

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before wiring, note the difference in the light

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after wiring and placement, this took me nearly 4 hours thats why the light is different.

let me know ya thoughts!


jamie

[Glenda]

A very nice aquisition, Jamie.

Glenda

[Chris]

Realy nice Jamie 4 hours is a nice afternoon with a new tree

[Jamie]

thanks guys

i really like where this one is heading, i look forward to developing it, the bark is also maturing very nicely!


jamie

[Jarrod]

I would perhaps pot it into something larger and let it get it's vigour back. To me it doesn't look really strong, but that could just be the photos.

Apart from that the structure looks good!

[Jamie]

jarrod you are correct, it isnt super strong, it will be a good wait for it to regain its strength, im not sure when it was last repotted but it has a tonne of mychrozia, i am happy to get its health back. any tips would be great!

[craigw60]

Hi Jamie, good find. If the soil is full of fungi then the tree is healthy its probably just hungry. Down here I would repot in late spring but you are in a different climate zone, either way Jarrod is right a bigger pot super free draining mix and lots of food for this one.
Craig

[Jamie]

cheers craig im thinking the same, i got told last night it has been a few years since it had been repotted! i am thinking feed it up some first and try get its hunger down some before doing any more? a repot is on the cards im just not sure when it should be done just yet bit of a pine virgin so a bit of help will be great! the soil is packed with fungi it is on mass in the pot!

noah might be able to fill me in when he repots, i didnt want to do to much to soon with the tree, i am very cautious when it comes to pines..

it is climatized to the climate so thats one good thing just hungry


jamie

[Jarrod]

I normally do mid to late spring as well.

I know a man who is busy potting up 30-50 large JBP, now in autumn, and he has done this for years.

Might be a plan to start to feed it now, though I would talk to more people up your way and see what they do as our climates are very different!

[Jamie]

cheers bro thats what i was thinking, this country has very different climates must all be taken into account! agreed on the feeding, im have started it on a gentle feed so far, it might become a little more aggressive as it moves along!


jamie

[Bretts]

You guys are confusing the hell out of me. Leong say's he repots when they go fully dormant. Grant I think said August and you guys are saying mid to late spring which is what I did last year and was told it was too late they should be done in Winter.
Area has been mentioned so maybe we can explore what it is you are trying to accomplish when repotting at a certain time.
Say with deciduous the idea is to repot in spring as the buds swell. The idea is that the energy stored in the roots is sent up into the branches before you disturb the roots. Also it will soon have a spurt of root growth to resettle the tree.
There are other times such as mid Summer for the more experienced with reasons of dormancy and such!

Can anyone elaborate on the correct time for repotting pines (say JBP if we need to be specific) why that is the correct time and any indicators that you may see?

[Josh7]

Jamie, nice tree buddy. What are it's dimensions?

[Jamie]

Jamie, nice tree buddy. What are it's dimensions?

thank champ

sizes are, trunk 35mm above the nebari, the nebari streches a bit over 100mm, height is about 300mm.

i got the elm seeds to mate muchly appreciated!

jamie

[bodhidharma]

You guys are confusing the hell out of me. Leong say's he repots when they go fully dormant. Grant I think said August and you guys are saying mid to late spring which is what I did last year and was told it was too late they should be done in Winter.
Area has been mentioned so maybe we can explore what it is you are trying to accomplish when repotting at a certain time.
Say with deciduous the idea is to repot in spring as the buds swell. The idea is that the energy stored in the roots is sent up into the branches before you disturb the roots. Also it will soon have a spurt of root growth to resettle the tree.
There are other times such as mid Summer for the more experienced with reasons of dormancy and such!

Can anyone elaborate on the correct time for repotting pines (say JBP if we need to be specific) why that is the correct time and any indicators that you may see?

G'day Bretts, I was under the impression that they never really go dormant. they slow down a lot but never really stop. I have potted in late spring, winter and Autumn all with success.

G'day Jamie, nice little pine but all of the above advice as to vigor. Will be a beauty one day. I know you will keep us informed

[Jamie]

thanks for the info bodhi, i was unsure myself with the potting too. i think best bet is vigour first, like everyone has said, then we o from there

will definately keep ya updated!

jamie