ID please, English elm or Zelcova

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ID please, English elm or Zelcova

Post by Jamie »

hey kids :D

just got this tree and i am starting to think it is a zelcova and not an english elm, either way it doesnt bother me as i like both species and have plans to get three or four trees out of it :D

leaf has fairly heavily serated leaves which tend to make me believe it is zelcova
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English elm from what I can see.
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im thinking English Jamie, my Zelkova has a more pointed tip at the end of the leaf,
and the serations look more spaced on mine ,ie your large leaf foto.
hope this helps.
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Could even be a varigated elm by the white spots.
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Definitely an Elm
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oh the other thing that has put me off english elm is that the leaves are absolutely tiny, im talking no more than 15mm long and about 10mm wide.

i dont think the tree has gone through any leaf reduction processes either :?

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Ulmus pumila, Siberian Elm?
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that could be a possibilty among english or zelcova i will have a google on it grant, thanks :D


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ulmus pumilla could be it but the bark is putting me off a little, it might be a variation of it. the leaves match pretty well to the google search i did, just the bark seemed rougher than what i got. i will get a pic of the tree and bark tomorrow :D


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I knew about the elm disease in America. But found this interesting when looking for a match :)
The cultivation of elms in Australia began in the first half of the 19th century when European settlers imported species from their former homelands. Owing to the demise of elms in the northern hemisphere as a result of the Dutch elm disease pandemic, the mature trees in Australia's parks and gardens are now regarded as amongst the most significant in the world.
I have looked through some of this list of the large number of species and cultivars that are grown in Australia and I still think it is a variegated variety. Mine has pretty small leaves too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elms_in_Australia
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i will definately check that site out brett, and untill you pointed those spots out to me i didnt notice them, i will have to check it out tomorrow. it always interesting when looking for certain info that you actually stumble across other info :D


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I don't think it is an English Elm. English Elm leaves are asymmetrical.http://duncanmcampbell.com/trees/English%20Elm.jpg
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Waltron wrote:I don't think it is an English Elm. English Elm leaves are asymmetrical.http://duncanmcampbell.com/trees/English%20Elm.jpg

thats one of the reasons i thought it wasnt english elm, plus the fact that the other english elm that i had, had a wide leaf like in waltrons picture, this one is narrower and way smaller than the english elm i had.

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What you have there is a dwarf version of English elm. I have two in my growing on plants section and raced up to make an i.d. it is the same and i just rang the fellow who i got them of to get its Bot name and he does not have it. He purchased them of Ray Nesci so i am sure Ray will know.
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bodhidharma wrote:What you have there is a dwarf version of English elm. I have two in my growing on plants section and raced up to make an i.d. it is the same and i just rang the fellow who i got them of to get its Bot name and he does not have it. He purchased them of Ray Nesci so i am sure Ray will know.
ahhh that would make sense then bohdi, the tree did come up from NSW aswell, whether that makes any difference i dont know but it would be good to find the botanical name :D


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