Something natives cannot do......

[treeman]

......arouse feelings of nostalgia in those of us who grew up kicking autumn leaves around.

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[TimS]

This right here is why i grow deciduous instead of natives, only instead of as a child its was ankle deep in Ginkgo leaves in Hokkaido about 10 years ago

[treeman]

This right here is why i grow deciduous instead of natives, only instead of as a child its was ankle deep in Ginkgo leaves in Hokkaido about 10 years ago

You still should grow some natives though....

[baldtwitlion]

Are there no native deciduous trees ?


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[TimS]

This right here is why i grow deciduous instead of natives, only instead of as a child its was ankle deep in Ginkgo leaves in Hokkaido about 10 years ago

You still should grow some natives though....

I have tried several, i just end up bored of them and their lack of autumn colours. I might give Nothofagus gunnii a try a being deciduous.

She Oak, Lepto, Callistemon, Acacia i've tried them and always moved them on pretty quickly. I do still have a largostrobos franklinii but it's just a stick in a pot so it doesn't count.

[treeman]

This right here is why i grow deciduous instead of natives, only instead of as a child its was ankle deep in Ginkgo leaves in Hokkaido about 10 years ago

You still should grow some natives though....

I have tried several, i just end up bored of them and their lack of autumn colours. I might give Nothofagus gunnii a try a being deciduous.

She Oak, Lepto, Callistemon, Acacia i've tried them and always moved them on pretty quickly. I do still have a largostrobos franklinii but it's just a stick in a pot so it doesn't count.

Can you get N gunnii !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????????????????????????????????
If you can, PM me immediately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[melbrackstone]

Can you get N gunnii !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????????????????????????????????
If you can, PM me immediately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Surely there are some available? I know of a couple of people in Vic who are, or were growing them. Otherwise there would be some available from Tassie?

In saying that, I can't see it doing well in a lowland situation....

[MJL]

This thread is appropriate to show another tree by Treeman. This tree is not in my collection and I take no credit for its development. It spent a little time on my BBQ in 2019 before being presented as a birthday present from a whole bunch of people to one lucky (and appreciative) person.
It's an English elm from root cutting.

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Quite beautiful.
I think this is a very natural bonsai. Take a look at the picture below of a field elm.

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Apologies, I can't show the autumn colour and leaves because it is not with me ... this shot is from the end of winter, last year.

[Robsterios]

Mel, did you mean Nothofagus Cunninghamii or actual Gunnii..? Both Mark and I have persisted with our Myrtle Beech forests for years now.
Many others have given up on the mainland from what I can tell and I was about to having lost several decent tree's in the forest. Mark had better success as his forest was originally planted in a much deeper pot. I'm glad I persisted though having replaced lost tree's from Will in Tas.. and is now looking fantastic. Mark finally took the plunge having found a shallow forest pot which was no easy task. I am curious though to how many have either large old Myrtle Beech tree's or have put forests of them together like we have....!!
But oh to be able to successfully grow Gunnii...now that would be something..!!

[melbrackstone]

sorry Rob, for some reason I thought you and Mark had some little success with N. gunnii. In that case, I guess it's just Jarryd and Wil in Tassie who are still trying?

[Rory]

You still should grow some natives though....

My natives laugh in the face of your withered and tired exotics.

A lot of my Phebaliums and Lepto scopariums are starting to flower. It’s a beautiful contrast to the approach of winter.
Unlike admiring dead or dying leaves.

[TimS]

I’d much rather the autumn colour and winter silhouette than a tree that looks the same year in, year out

Seriously though, I do like a lot of native bonsai to look at, I just need the autumnal colours for me to actually want to grow them. I only have one evergreen left now, I used to grow heaps of pines and tried the natives but I’m all about the autumn colours

[EdwardH]

Autumn colour is usually for just 1-2 months yet many natives have beautiful coloured new growth and often all year long.
Like the naked appearance? That's called defoliation.
Mind you a well ramified deciduous tree does look stunning in winter.

[Rory]

Seriously though, I do like a lot of native bonsai to look at, I just need the autumnal colours for me to actually want to grow them. I only have one evergreen left now, I used to grow heaps of pines and tried the natives but I’m all about the autumn colours

Allocasuarina torulosa develops a lovely reddish-purple-brown growth over winter. Looks very different to the strong emerald green of Spring.
Sometimes its good to have both, that way you can have your skeletons, and lovely flowering trees at the same time.

Autumn colour is usually for just 1-2 months yet many natives have beautiful coloured new growth and often all year long.
Like the naked appearance? That's called defoliation.
Mind you a well ramified deciduous tree does look stunning in winter.

well said.

[TimS]

Autumn colour is usually for just 1-2 months yet many natives have beautiful coloured new growth and often all year long.
Like the naked appearance? That's called defoliation.
Mind you a well ramified deciduous tree does look stunning in winter.

It’s the colour as much as it is the cycle of birth, life and decline carried out. The appeal is that it’s short, much like a flowering cherry where you only get a few weeks to appreciate it.

At the end of the day it’s horses for courses. I couldn’t be convinced to grow native bonsai because my heart just isn’t in that place, but it doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate the trees and those that do grow them.