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new trident from northside!

Posted: September 26th, 2009, 3:35 pm
by Jamie
hey guys, another one of my new raw stock trees to go along with my juniper is this trident maple, tess didnt have what i was after in her usual area so she was really great and went out back and found what i was after! such a nice lady tess is!
this ones trunk is quite thick even though it doesnt look like it, the nebari flare goes out to about 5 inches! stands just over 14 inches tall from the soil line. this has some great potential. i am going to take it back to a bare trunk with selctivly taking out the thick trunks on top. (advice on this would be great, which trunk to take out, etc).
any way enough babble. here it is. raw as.
all of the tree still as is in the photo, i dont have any tools with me because im on holiday!

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 26th, 2009, 5:54 pm
by Jamie
the "better nebari" picture matches to the top "nice trunk movement" picture if anyone was wondering how this tree goes together :D

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 26th, 2009, 6:36 pm
by anttal63
chop and the future tree is there. :D

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 26th, 2009, 6:39 pm
by Jamie
anttal63 wrote:chop and the future tree is there. :D
:D nice mate nice :D :lol:
chopping is definatley the plan, going down to one line of trunk i dont want this to be big i want it to be of shohin size. once chopped, can this be potted and developed from there?

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 26th, 2009, 6:47 pm
by anttal63
small poly box for now. :lol: :D

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 26th, 2009, 6:56 pm
by Jamie
anttal63 wrote:small poly box for now. :lol: :D
:lol: nice mate, probly not that small but that is a really cool idea... i like the look of that. nice virt. even if it is simple thats a good thing easy to follow.
it would make i nice little stocky tree mate... i gotta think on this one.. wether to go that small with sumo like appearance, or give it some taper and let it flow a bit more???
i know the tree is in there :? :D
just gotta find it :lol:


edit- i am now wondering why i didnt see that little fella in there??? i seen something else lol

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 26th, 2009, 7:03 pm
by anttal63
however you want design this tree, even if it is taller. the best tree is in the 1st shoot. you did say shohin. this stump is no where near sumo. :D

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 26th, 2009, 7:07 pm
by Jamie
anttal63 wrote:however you want design this tree, even if it is taller. the best tree is in the 1st shoot. you did say shohin. this stump is no where near sumo. :D
fair call on the sumo--- :D oops. :lol:
i agree with ya on the first picture. thats where the better nebari is aswell :D

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 26th, 2009, 10:04 pm
by Jamie
heres something more along the lines i was thinking, very rough but just an idea when i seen the tree,
if anyone else out there see other possible options feel free to virtually hack it up :)

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 26th, 2009, 11:31 pm
by Jamie
ok this might be a better way of showing what i seen, do it in its winter clothes...

the virt

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 27th, 2009, 2:19 am
by MelaQuin
I like the smaller version, more compact and highlights the lovely movement in the trunk.
Hint: When you want a virtual on a tree remove it from the pot and scrape soil away from the nebari so it is shown in all its glory. Then take your photographs, preferably 4 sides or 1 if there is obviously THE good side. It's easier to work out possibilities when you see all the tree and it is easier to get ideas to design a tree when you can see the nebari and then the sweep up the trunk.

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 27th, 2009, 10:25 am
by Jamie
thanks for the tip mel. i was actually at a cabin in a caravan park when i took these as we were on holiday so i didnt have any of my tools, soil etc. to b e able to do this, all i had was my laptop and camera so i could post my new stock stuff :)
man i cant wait till i get home!

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 27th, 2009, 11:20 am
by MelaQuin
You're cute!!! I know the feeling... a find and you have to share, have to do. That's the spirit of bonsai.

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 27th, 2009, 11:23 am
by Jarrod
I would put a layer on the tree, just below the spot where all the branches come off, to make a clump, then take the long whips from above and thread graft all the branches you need. i.e. first, second back and one to build an apex. ;)

Re: new trident from northside!

Posted: September 27th, 2009, 4:01 pm
by Jamie
thanks mel :)

and jarrod, thats a great idea! i know we were talking bout it last night, i found myself thinking about it more and more last night, i think this is a very viable option! :D