BUT dont get use to seeing the tree in this current configuration unless you are growing it to be a bunjin. this is all and well to learn how to shape and wire. imo the most important part of this tree is from the soil to the tip of the first young branch. the shaping there is crucial for the future trunk line. in this space between the soil and 1st branch, you need to bud back big time then learn how to control the energy in order to fatten the right part of the trunk at the right time and create taper. in this process you will also start some branching. this will happen if you chop the rest off over the next year or two. if you want to develope material like this into serious trees its a 10 yr deal to start it off. more impotantly than all of this learn from what you do and enjoy yourself. i will get a photo of some of my juvinile stuff tomorrow and show you what im trying to say. any pine enthusiast must own pine masters 
the highlighted qoute.. i dont have the book but am trying to aquire both the pine masters and juniper masters.. my question does this wireing to scar the trunkto help thicken it work with junipers aswell, or am i just hoping??? and would find major scar issues that would never heal??noah78 wrote:mick,
as someone with 40 JBP in training as well as a dozen more advanced i have noticed with my young with which i bought as all straight 6 inch stock(3-4 years old). I put alot of movement in them all and also wired them heavily to scare the trunk low which increases fattening of the trunk. Learnt this from bonsai masters pines book. I then feed the hell out of them , watered well and full sun for 2 years. I left a few branches low for sacrifices. i cut some back hard last winter leaving sacrifices to thinken up the trunk and picked a new bud as future leaders to develop taper( look under threads for sacrifice branches if you dont know what that means). i have been getting multiple buds all over the branches and on the trunk on most of these. I think to get budding you need to water, fertilise well and often , full sun . Dont let branches get long and laggy otherwise its difficult to chase growth back on pines. Ill try to post some examples to help you. Also if you have heavier wire use it for putting movement in the trunk. I think your wire is too thin. I found they are quite flexable when still young.Also when you repot every few years go up a size or two in your pots , they will reward you.
taking the top half of trees of since 2005! 
