Trident Maple and wiring dilemma and shaping

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Trident Maple and wiring dilemma and shaping

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The T. Maple is pretty gorgeous, it's in a pot that also has a pond on the side, with a cliff face and a little Chinese man fishing :) But I've just noticed that it has had wire wrapped around the trunk and one of the branches, unfortunately they haven't been removed while it's been growing and the wire has dug into the bark. You can barely notice it on the trunk as most of it has been healed over, and parts of it on the branch have healed over as well, the rest of it is halfway healed over and would be very difficult to remove with damaging the bark or even breaking the branch :o If I was to pull off what wire I could, and leave the rest of it, what would happen to the tree? Would it just heal over it and keep growing? Or act as a tourniquet and kill off the water and nutrient supply, which I can only assume would eventually kill off the tree :shake:
I've taken a few photos (with excellent iPhone quality...) so you can see what I mean.


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Re: Trident Maple and wiring delemma

Post by archie1979 »

Hey there,
It sure has been left on there for quite a long time. I wouldnt risk the damage you could would probably do by removing the wire, the tree has been healing nicely over the wire IMHO I would just leave the wire in place and let the tree grow over it.
The tree wont die if you leave the wire some bonsai nurseries overseas actually use this as a method to fatten the trunks quickly and even after 15-20 years the wire still remains inside the trunk. There is a movie of this on Bonsai TV but I cant remember what episode it is.

Good luck

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Re: Trident Maple and wiring delemma

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Thanks Archie, I'm thinking I will just trim the wire that I can to neaten it up, and just wait for it to heal over.
It looks like it should heal without too much of a scar as well!
Does anyone have any tips for which way it should be pruned and shaped??
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Re: Trident Maple and wiring delemma

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PinkFlowers wrote:I've been given a T. Maple for my 21st birthday (last week) that is pretty gorgeous, it's in a pot that also has a pond on the side, with a cliff face and a little Chinese man fishing :) But I've just noticed that it has had wire wrapped around the trunk and one of the branches, unfortunately they haven't been removed while it's been growing and the wire has dug into the bark. You can barely notice it on the trunk as most of it has been healed over, and parts of it on the branch have healed over as well, the rest of it is halfway healed over and would be very difficult to remove with damaging the bark or even breaking the branch :o If I was to pull off what wire I could, and leave the rest of it, what would happen to the tree? Would it just heal over it and keep growing? Or act as a tourniquet and kill off the water and nutrient supply, which I can only assume would eventually kill off the tree :shake:
I've taken a few photos (with excellent iPhone quality...) so you can see what I mean.


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Image


P.s., I hope you all enjoy big photos!!
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Re: Trident Maple and wiring delemma

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The wire that has been covered you can leave there as it will not hurt the tree.
Any sections you can you can cut the wire off and remove it as the tree will heal faster without it

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Trident Maple Shaping???

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I've just been given this Trident Maple and I have no idea which way I should shape it.
It seems a little ... crowded?? But I really don't like the look of the sparse styles, I'd really like it to look just like a miniature T. Maple ... ? As vague as that is.
Can anyone offer some advice on how to achieve that?
I wouldn't mind something along these lines :
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... 40&bih=720


And this is my tree at the moment. Is this photo any good? I can take better ones in the morning.
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Re: Trident Maple Shaping???

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Don't do anything to the tree now - winter is coming. When the buds swell in spring you may work on the nebari and trunkline:

http://www.evergreengardenworks.com/trunks.htm

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