growing pine from cuttings???

bonsai of tree · Post by **bonsai of tree** » February 21st, 2011, 4:37 pm

Many people say it's impossible to grow pine from cuttings ( or atleast very hard to). I just want to know is it possible to grow pine from cuttings? if you have, please tell me how you did it, i will be very grateful.

Mitchell · Post by **Mitchell** » February 21st, 2011, 5:07 pm

I only have experience with Radiatas, which take easily via cuttings. Cut them up, dip in hormone, plant in sand. 'Bout it.

tuscanpistoia · Post by **tuscanpistoia** » February 21st, 2011, 5:26 pm

I posted a similar question on another forum a few years back, rather than re-write the wheel (pardon the pun), here is a link the the response. I haven't tried it but I hope it helps.
http://www.bonsaitreeforums.com/forums/ ... ropogation

Grant Bowie · Post by **Grant Bowie** » February 21st, 2011, 5:33 pm

Hi and yes it can be done.

Best results occur from material taken from autumn candles.

Remove all spring growth in early summer; it will bud back and put out new candles and the resulting growth gives the best cutting materials. (This new growth is compact and not over vigorous)

I have had it work with corky type Black pines.

Give it a go.

Grant

Bretts · Post by **Bretts** » February 21st, 2011, 8:59 pm

Sounds like a great plan Grant. When you say take from Autumn Candles. I guess you mean plant them then. I have seen graft stored in the fridge till spring for grafting which seems a little too technical for me. Also one other system with deciduous hardwood cuttings is to bury the whole cutting in the ground over Winter and planting out come spring.

I did hear the main problem with pine cuttings was keeping them alive long enough (6 months) before they shot new roots. That meant misting was very important. I guess a proper misting set up/system always improves the chances but is this necessary with Pines?

Grant Bowie · Post by **Grant Bowie** » February 22nd, 2011, 8:41 am

Take the cuttings when you intend to use them. Why would you cut off then store?

Safer to leave them on the tree till you want the cuttings.

Grant

Dumper · Post by **Dumper** » February 22nd, 2011, 12:09 pm

2 months ago i did jbp cuttings on perlite.
put them in a shaded place in the greenhouse and use give 1 hour of photolighting at night. (force them to fotosintensis)

took around 30 cuttings only 10 turn brown

John

Bretts · Post by **Bretts** » February 22nd, 2011, 12:13 pm

Not sure Grant. I believe that is how Brent waltson does it. I gatherd there was something about Autumn candles responding better with spring growth when grafting. It was all a little suprising to me but he is one of Americas great bonsai nurserymen so I thought there might be something to it?

Post by **NBPCA** » February 22nd, 2011, 12:40 pm

Bretts wrote:Not sure Grant. I believe that is how Brent waltson does it. I gatherd there was something about Autumn candles responding better with spring growth when grafting. It was all a little suprising to me but he is one of Americas great bonsai nurserymen so I thought there might be something to it?

Brett,

We are talking cuttings; not grafting.

Grant

shibui · Post by **shibui** » February 23rd, 2011, 5:27 pm

Quite good results here from Black, Red, Mugo, White pines and radiata is said to be easy. Make cuttings of previous seasons shoots as indicated by Grant. Treat base with rooting substance (I use rootex G or Clonex red or purple). My mix is 2 perlite: 1 coir peat. Placed under intermittent mist until roots form. I was told August is the only month to set black pine cuttings but I'm trying other seasons to verify/ disprove this. Will be keen to hear results from Dumper's summer cuttings (maybe PM me when you know one way or the other Dumper?).
More info on red pines from cuttings in this thread viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7413

lindsay farr · Post by **lindsay farr** » February 23rd, 2011, 6:19 pm

taking your cuttings from young plants helps. Juvenility rules

Scott Roxburgh · Post by **Scott Roxburgh** » February 23rd, 2011, 8:42 pm

I haven't tried any pine candle cuttings but have done newly sprouted seedling cuttings of radiata and they seem to work great!

I also wanted to say how awesome it is to have all these great Nurserymen from around Australia giving their input. Thanks Neil, Grant, and Lindsay we really value your input.

Scott.

bonsai of tree · Post by **bonsai of tree** » February 26th, 2011, 10:56 am

thankyou everyone for posting, posting can now be stopped as i have figured out the correct way to grow pine from cutting.

Dumper · Post by **Dumper** » February 26th, 2011, 12:05 pm

care to share?

John

lindsay farr · Post by **lindsay farr** » February 26th, 2011, 2:53 pm

thankyou everyone for posting, posting can now be stopped as i have figured out the correct way to grow pine from cutting.

there is no correct way. There are many ways. What works one year doesn't the next. keep an open mind or you will not evolve

AusBonsai

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