Hector Johnson wrote:I agree wholeheartedly, Peter. I didn't say it was wrong, merely illogical.
Yes i agree it is illogical. Its the question we all should ask ourselves before attempting first stylings, "do i want this tree to look like a bonsai or this bonsai to look like a tree" I think thats how WP puts it. How many collections have you seen where most of the bonsai in the collection has the dreaded S bend, regardless of whether it is conifer or deciduous. My point was though, if grown for commercial reasons, the Pine styled trees would most likely be sold first. If you close your eyes and conjure up an image of a tree in your mind, its never gunna look like these trees. These trees look like bonsais.
Peter
I can see the pros and cons of this tree but while I am virulently against bar branching... I don't find it offensive in this trident. The branches have been shaped so gracefully that the barring is not like a clothes horse. And when the tree is clothed who cares.... I don't find the roots wholly comfortable, the tree sorta seems poised to kick off somewhere rather than snuggling to the earth. But that's really point picking. The scar in the front is not lovely but it is healing and in a few years will be covered so that's hardly an issue. Overall I think this is very nice. My only caution would be to watch the height so it doesn't edge over into lanky - I find it verging on that now but another year and a good top trim could be needed. But I wouldn't quibble if this was in my collection. Very nicely done.
Hi Peter,
I don't like critique-ing peoples trees unless they particularly ask for an opinion, however, I've found that any photo posted, becomes fair game.
I particularly like the tree in the last photo(04), looks as though it is in a nice Japanese Pot, has a lovely nebari and not far off being something "Special"
The tree in the original posting is a nice little tree and undoubtably you have got the most out of the material, that like all material, has some faults. It is always easy for critics to find all the faults in something, you obviously have bonsai "talent" to produce a lovely tree, working with the material at hand.
For what it is worth, to my eye( purely my own taste ) tree (02) requires a slightly larger pot and the tree should be potted lower, but has great potential and being a radical designer, I would cut the tree in photo (03) just above the first right hand side branch, as that straight bend to the left worries me a bit.
You obviously have quite a few maples in the style shown, so by doing this you would develop a more squat tree which may give variety to your collection of maples. After cutting your trunk, bring the RHS branch down on a greater angle and just hope for a shoot at the site of the cut to grow your first left hand side primary branch, which might follow the line of the trunk in a downward direction of course.
Don't take any offence, just the way I see it is the way I call it.
Once this posting has run its course I will post a little Maple of mine for critique.
cheers
Dave
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Dave54 wrote:Hi Peter,
I don't like critique-ing peoples trees unless they particularly ask for an opinion, however, I've found that any photo posted, becomes fair game.
I particularly like the tree in the last photo(04), looks as though it is in a nice Japanese Pot, has a lovely nebari and not far off being something "Special"
The tree in the original posting is a nice little tree and undoubtably you have got the most out of the material, that like all material, has some faults. It is always easy for critics to find all the faults in something, you obviously have bonsai "talent" to produce a lovely tree, working with the material at hand.
For what it is worth, to my eye( purely my own taste ) tree (02) requires a slightly larger pot and the tree should be potted lower, but has great potential and being a radical designer, I would cut the tree in photo (03) just above the first right hand side branch, as that straight bend to the left worries me a bit.
You obviously have quite a few maples in the style shown, so by doing this you would develop a more squat tree which may give variety to your collection of maples. After cutting your trunk, just hope for a shoot at the site of the cut to grow your first left hand side primary branch, which might follow the line of the trunk in a downward direction of course.
Don't take any offence, just the way I see it is the way I call it.
Once this posting has run its course I will post a little Maple of mine for critique.
cheers
Dave
Hi Dave,
These are not my trees but belong to a friend who has allowed me to share them with my friends here. As you say mate fair game. Please feel free to comment but read the full post first mate. These trees (and many others) are grown for commercial resale, the pot at this stage is pretty much just there cause they have to be in something! They are in varying stages of development and will all have noticable improvment by this time next year. They actually fit your criteria that you previously mentioned, you buy good trees and make them better, these trees will one day no doubt be prized in someones collection.
Regards
Peter
Peter
Hi Peter,
yes I did read the entire posting before replying, however, thought you were joking when you said they were another person's trees.
As commercial trees they certainly have been designed for that purpose and are of great quality, all have great potential. My thoughts hold true for any prospective purchaser. What price the last tree as some members have been talking up buying quality trees? Then again, maybe just talking.
cheers
Dave
PeterW wrote:Here is some more little fat tridents.....there like little soldiers! There everywhere. Look at the movement in the trunks on these.
Peter
aaaaaaaahhhh...
is it me, or is there no pics here
inspired by nature, considered superior to nature.
