What elm is it?

[Bonbon]

Bought as Chinese Elm but I don't think so.
Anyone know what elm is it?

[Beano]

Looks Chinese to me. What makes you think it isn't?

[Pearcy001]

I too would have said chinese.

Cheers,
Pearcy.

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[Bonbon]

I have a few Chinese Elm, they are all much smaller in leaves size.
The photo can't show the size of the leaves without a scale attached. I am sorry
I would say these leaves are a few times bigger than my other Chinese elms.
Could it be English elms?

[brodoyouevenbonsai]

Is it possible your new elm may not have been defoliatedas much allowing bigger leaves?
I may be wrong as i am just a noob

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[Thymetraveller]

I posted almost the same question last year...one of my trunk chops seemed to have gone rogue!
It looks like a chinese elm to me; the lwaves reduce dranatically with the right treatment, but they quickly revert to a much larger size

[Bonbon]

I posted almost the same question last year...one of my trunk chops seemed to have gone rogue!
It looks like a chinese elm to me; the lwaves reduce dranatically with the right treatment, but they quickly revert to a much larger size

Thanks, I like bigger leaves anyway for elms. These have very nice colour too.

[kb bonsai]

I too have had a similar experience, several years ago I purchased half a dozen reasonably advanced ( but badly neglected and pot bound) Chinese elms with the view to use them in a forest setting. At a later date ( and from a different nursery) I purchased 3 smaller Chinese Elms to supplement the group with. Within a short period of time I noticed vastly different growth characteristics between the two lots. The first group, the leaves where larger and the ramification was quite sparse. The second 3 however the leaves were significantly smaller , had a very fine margin of white around the leaf edge and the branch ramification was far finer and twiggier. I am sure however that they were both "Chinese elms" but the habit was so different that I was unable to use them in the same forest setting. I certainly cannot explain it, perhaps there is someone out there who can shed some light on this , other than just "one of the mysteries of nature !!!"
Regards
KB

[Ryceman3]

I too have had a similar experience, several years ago I purchased half a dozen reasonably advanced ( but badly neglected and pot bound) Chinese elms with the view to use them in a forest setting. At a later date ( and from a different nursery) I purchased 3 smaller Chinese Elms to supplement the group with. Within a short period of time I noticed vastly different growth characteristics between the two lots. The first group, the leaves where larger and the ramification was quite sparse. The second 3 however the leaves were significantly smaller , had a very fine margin of white around the leaf edge and the branch ramification was far finer and twiggier. I am sure however that they were both "Chinese elms" but the habit was so different that I was unable to use them in the same forest setting. I certainly cannot explain it, perhaps there is someone out there who can shed some light on this , other than just "one of the mysteries of nature !!!"
Regards
KB

Hi KB,
There is a variegated version of Chinese Elm floating around known as "Frosty", it has leaves which can have a silver/white edge to them and that may explain the foliage on your 3 smaller elms. I assume they are bonsai worthy just as other Ulmus Parvifolia (no experience) so whether or not they were any good for your group planting, could still be useful!!?! That might help answer your question... Maybe!

[shibui]

There are quite a few different cultivars of Chinese elm available in Australia.
I grow at least 3 here and also grow seedlings which add genetic diversity to the mix.
Corky bark ( sometimes labelled 'Ulmus parvifolia 'Davidii' or Ulmus davidii) is one. Seiju seems to be another cultivar of Chinese elm. I believe that U. parvifolia 'nire keyaki' (sometimes Nire Geyaki or Hokkaaido elm) is also a variety or sub species of Chinese elm. The more common 'reticulated' Chinese elm has bark that peels to give a leopard spot pattern and there are forms intermediate between all these so it is not surprising that some of you have noticed differences between Chinese elms from different sources.
Now that we know that Chinese elm is variable, when you need stock for a group project make sure it is propagated or sourced from the same material.

[tgward]

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