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Hello Wal,

Keep in mind when sourcing your collection that many / most deciduous trees require cold and a Winter dormancy.
Having said that the Chinese Elm is extremely adaptable and as i've learnt is quite suited to your Winters.

Have fun with your elm.

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Kevin wrote:Hello Wal,

Keep in mind when sourcing your collection that many / most deciduous trees require cold and a Winter dormancy.
Having said that the Chinese Elm is extremely adaptable and as i've learnt is quite suited to your Winters.

Have fun with your elm.

Good Luck,
Kevin
Would 2 weeks of winter count? Thats about all i get :lost: I've seen lots of crabapple up here hmm

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Can't believe the growth in just a few short weeks wow.... how long till this new shoot will harden up enough to wire straight up?

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Make sure you check the roots before deciding on a new planting angle Wal. If you already have then great, but if not I'd check them first.

Although the new leader may be at the right angle the roots may be the opposite. If you only have strong roots on the right and then you tilt it to the right it may be a possible regret in the long run.

I always take into consideration the possible future nebari before I tilt a tree, as it is much easier to grow a new leader in a different spot than roots.

Food for thought.

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Pearcy001 wrote:Make sure you check the roots before deciding on a new planting angle Wal. If you already have then great, but if not I'd check them first.

Although the new leader may be at the right angle the roots may be the opposite.

I always take into consideration the possible future nebari before I tilt a tree, as it is much easier to grow the new leader than roots in a different spot.

Food for thought.

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Thanks :)
I want the pot flat again but the new leader is to fresh to wire straight up no? So i lent it over so its going up more than to the side

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how long till this new shoot will harden up enough to wire straight up?
Depends on how careful you are, what sized wire, how well the tree is growing, etc.
Basically, you can wire whenever you think you can. You'll only need thin wire for such a soft shoot. Just be careful to wind the wire around the shoot, not the other way :oops:
I find that these really soft shoots will be set in just a couple of weeks.

In this case there is an alternative. Just tie the new shoot close to the existing trunk with tape, string, wire, ziptie, etc. I assume that is where you want it to go when you say straight up???
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shibui wrote:
how long till this new shoot will harden up enough to wire straight up?
Depends on how careful you are, what sized wire, how well the tree is growing, etc.
Basically, you can wire whenever you think you can. You'll only need thin wire for such a soft shoot. Just be careful to wind the wire around the shoot, not the other way :oops:
I find that these really soft shoots will be set in just a couple of weeks.

In this case there is an alternative. Just tie the new shoot close to the existing trunk with tape, string, wire, ziptie, etc. I assume that is where you want it to go when you say straight up???
Yes that is correct...... thank you once again :tu:

I have right down to 1mm wire and tiny zipties

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All sorted :tu:

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That looks much younger than 9 years old imho..

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Sambow wrote:That looks much younger than 9 years old imho..

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Thank you mate
I totally agree but they said its 9 years old at Bonsai Place :lost: . It looked so lanky before and the branches started way to high up before, even with my professional wiring :lol:

Perhaps it was in a bonsai pot from the start and only fed water :lol:

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I can't believe this was a bare stick 33 days ago OMG :o

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wal wrote:I can't believe this was a bare stick 33 days ago OMG :o

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You have done well.
This is such a great thread & its pleasing to see everyone helping out - very different than the US sites I'm a member of!

I also had an old tree, I chopped it pre Xmas & I'm letting it grow on. I'll cut back shortly & do some branch selection, but for now its just doing its thing.

How the tree looked when I got it $10.
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Dec - After Chop
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Today
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Another small elm - I got a bunch of these for $5. I'm not sure if they are the same species, but anyhow.
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Hi Kane,
They all look like Chinese Elms. The last one looks like it needs a feed.
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KIRKY wrote:Hi Kane,
They all look like Chinese Elms. The last one looks like it needs a feed.
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Yes I think you are correct, its also been in a bit of shade lately, so I'll be putting it put in full sun tomorrow - do you use general fertiliser for Elms or a special elm? I have plenty of osmocot pellets.

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I would give just about any fert... i feed osmocot pellets... also i give nitrosol every 2 weeks .... plus seasol every few weeks

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