
JBP FOR MICK
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JBP FOR MICK
Time to put my money where my mouth is and try to show exactly how i tackle a young jbp. this is a 10 yr project from now. young stock that has been wired previously, some what similarly to yours. it is now up to me to take it to the next level. i have chosen a bottom and top sacrafice (blue o),the future leader (green o). everything else comes off. this will cause the 2 sacrafices and the new leader to charge and power grow on. the trunk will also explode with new buds up and down it. i will strategically choose more sacrafices out of them. im hoping for a low basal bud big time. the higher of the 2 red lines is my trunk reduction for this year. the lower is my future chop to meet the future trunk line that the new leader will be styled for now. i will also repot and give the roots a good work out too. i will try to get it done this week. i will take progression shots as i go and give you as detailed explanations as i possibly can. hang about we're in this together now. any questions? 

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Looking good Ant. Was going to ask why you had it in a smallish pot... Then I read you were about to repot and I answered my own question. Looking forward to seeing the progression.
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this is exactly how i got it recently.Jarrod wrote:Looking good Ant. Was going to ask why you had it in a smallish pot... Then I read you were about to repot and I answered my own question. Looking forward to seeing the progression.

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Glad to hear that.... Was getting a bit worried you had lost your mind..... Lol


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hair cut is done, i have left enough candles on to help it recover from the repot. conifers prefer it if you leave more foliage on rather then less when repotting and chopping roots. 

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Thanks Antonio
I'll be hanging around for sure. Iv'e got more than ten years eh
How tall is your tree at the moment, and when peolpe measre their trees, do they measure from the soil ?
Do you intend on beding the trunk more? I can see why you should bend them more as youngsters, if that was trained in the same manner as mine.
Cheers
Mick

I'll be hanging around for sure. Iv'e got more than ten years eh

How tall is your tree at the moment, and when peolpe measre their trees, do they measure from the soil ?
Do you intend on beding the trunk more? I can see why you should bend them more as youngsters, if that was trained in the same manner as mine.
Cheers
Mick
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the second shoot on the left is the next leader, so that it already takes off in the opposite direction. i will wire it for movement. the planting angle when i repot will take care of the rest. i will also wire the top sacrafice out of the way so as to not block any light from the new leader and under trunk. to do more radical bends in the under trunk i believe the stock needs to be younger and fresher, then you can twist and bend them into a pretzel. 
btw from soil up it is now 6 or so inches.

btw from soil up it is now 6 or so inches.
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Hi Antonio.
One question.
If you plan to grow the tree on, what will you use for a training pot? I got myself a foam box fruit box today, but I was thinking that if it was a wooden grow box, I would be able to drill holes in it to put some guy wires in as an anchor.
Iv'e just seen a lot of foam boxes as grow pots.(maybee that is for trees that are a bit advanced??)
You have got me even more keen to get this tree into shape now
Cheers
Mick
One question.
If you plan to grow the tree on, what will you use for a training pot? I got myself a foam box fruit box today, but I was thinking that if it was a wooden grow box, I would be able to drill holes in it to put some guy wires in as an anchor.
Iv'e just seen a lot of foam boxes as grow pots.(maybee that is for trees that are a bit advanced??)
You have got me even more keen to get this tree into shape now

Cheers
Mick
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It will outlive all of us
But would it this forum?
Hi Mick,
I usually use foam fruit box as well, they are free and ready for use. The only limitation is that
their width are rather narrow, so there are less room to develop a good basal flare. If they were
square boxes, they would be perfect.
Building our own wooden boxes seem to be the norm for a lot of growers. Although I have read
posts in this forum that we should be beware of chemical in the treated pines timber.
I am thinking of making my own cement shallow round pots. It might be cheaper then wooden,
easier; and possibly last longer too.
If I can get off my backside and to it, I will surely post.
Best regards.

Hi Mick,
I usually use foam fruit box as well, they are free and ready for use. The only limitation is that
their width are rather narrow, so there are less room to develop a good basal flare. If they were
square boxes, they would be perfect.
Building our own wooden boxes seem to be the norm for a lot of growers. Although I have read
posts in this forum that we should be beware of chemical in the treated pines timber.
I am thinking of making my own cement shallow round pots. It might be cheaper then wooden,
easier; and possibly last longer too.
If I can get off my backside and to it, I will surely post.
Best regards.
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I have a lot of hard wood fence pailings behind my shed ( the old fence was pulled down ).
I'm thinking of using them?
Not sure what they are, but I think they are old enough to not worry about chemicals, but my only problem is if they will split when I nail them.
Cheers
Mick
I'm thinking of using them?
Not sure what they are, but I think they are old enough to not worry about chemicals, but my only problem is if they will split when I nail them.
Cheers
Mick
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3-4mm pilot hole in it first mate, then use a screw and glue system to put it together. plenty of sites out there to help with wood working, and a timber box is nothing to do!
and being hard wood you shouldnt have any chemical problems
and being hard wood you shouldnt have any chemical problems
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and growing trees for the future generations! 50+ year plans

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no probmick wrote:Great!!
Thanks Jmie
Mick


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and there you have have it, your question has been answered. go team ! 

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Re: JBP FOR MICK
So what would be a good size box to make?
RE; Dimentions.
I was thinking two pailings high.
Cheers
Mick
RE; Dimentions.
I was thinking two pailings high.
Cheers
Mick