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I really like the winter look of this forest :clap:
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Both are great plantings. I can see that your skills have improved over the years. The use of space and proportion is great in the second planting. Creates the feeling of movement and makes me want to walk through the forest. Both are great though.

They will be the envy of many, including me.

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They look great.

How do you replant them? As a group or as individual trees? If you do individuals, then how do you stop the group from changing?
Which suggests you'd move them as a group - roots entwined and all; but how then do you clean out the soil or stop the group breaking apart?
Almost sounds like a nightmare ...


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gerald randall wrote:Treeman

Both are great plantings. I can see that your skills have improved over the years. The use of space and proportion is great in the second planting. Creates the feeling of movement and makes me want to walk through the forest. Both are great though.

They will be the envy of many, including me.

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Interesting you say that. The small one was just done by eye until it looked something like I visualized. The second larger one was actually made according to a formula set out by Saburo Kato (the main 4 or 5 trees that is)
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CoGRedeMptioN wrote:They look great.

How do you replant them? As a group or as individual trees? If you do individuals, then how do you stop the group from changing?
Which suggests you'd move them as a group - roots entwined and all; but how then do you clean out the soil or stop the group breaking apart?
Almost sounds like a nightmare ...


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Repot as a group. And yes it is a nightmare. When you remove enough soil they start to flop all over the place requiring lots of propping up and fiddling. The older one is getting easier every year though.
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I'd love to go for a walk through the second one Mike. Nice work, very convincing group plantings.

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treeman wrote:...
Repot as a group. And yes it is a nightmare. When you remove enough soil they start to flop all over the place requiring lots of propping up and fiddling. The older one is getting easier every year though.
Sounds like you need to design a "Tree Brace", one that holds the trees by their trunk while you do the dirty work! Might be to restrictive, though....

Well, I'm nowhere near being able to start a group! Still struggling with a single tree...


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Steven wrote:I'd love to go for a walk through the second one Mike. Nice work, very convincing group plantings.

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I completely agree. The 2nd group is by far the stand out for my preference. Very natural looking and lovely to just stare at. :clap:

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Post by Scott Roxburgh »

Thanks for the update Mike, great to see it looks nice sans-leaf!

Are you going to treat the scars to encourage healing or just leave it?

If you were to make another, would you let the seedlings develop together in one pot, in groups or individually?
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Mike would it be possible to sometime get a number of views of your groups please? Front, side, back and other side please? With or without leaves... I'm just wanting to learn from your placement. :)
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Post by NAHamilton »

Hi Melbrackstone,

I did a bit of googling a while back after reading this
The second larger one was actually made according to a formula set out by Saburo Kato (the main 4 or 5 trees that is)
and found that the book titled Forest, Rock Planting & Ezo Spruce Bonsai by Saburo Kato is really good for creating/understanding groups.

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Cheers Nigel! Appreciate it!
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