Phoenix Candidate?

[MoGanic]

Hi all,

Have just finished cleaning the first of my two Phoenix graft projects and I'm really at a loss as to where to go with it. Pics below, comments well appreciated.

Thanks guys

[Boics]

Hey Mo.

Did we lose these in the great Ausbonsai crash of 2012?

Absolutely no idea where and what to do with this sort of material (Phoenix).
Maybe Alpine can give you some advise?
Not my league unfortunately.

However I did pick myself up a nice little piece of driftwood when I was down the coast a month ago..
In summary interested to learn more - show us the way!

Cheers,

[alpineart]

Hi Moganic , very nice clean piece of material . I like pic 4 for a start , pic 1 rotated anticlockwise 45 degree's also looks good . With a nice little shimpaku embedded into the base and let it run , winding the numerous side shoot around a few of the thicker /stronger limbs on the deadwood . Allow a season or two for them to strangle the deadwood or carve a groove if there is enough meat on the wood and embed the side shoots as they grow . Allow it to run leggy then cut back to expose the ends of the deadwood and begin shaping the jumper from here . Shimpaku runs rampant and is probably the best i have used so far , sabina's are slow and leggy .

Best of luck with which ever you choose . Cheers Alpine

[MoGanic]

Hi Moganic , very nice clean piece of material . I like pic 4 for a start , pic 1 rotated anticlockwise 45 degree's also looks good . With a nice little shimpaku embedded into the base and let it run , winding the numerous side shoot around a few of the thicker /stronger limbs on the deadwood . Allow a season or two for them to strangle the deadwood or carve a groove if there is enough meat on the wood and embed the side shoots as they grow . Allow it to run leggy then cut back to expose the ends of the deadwood and begin shaping the jumper from here . Shimpaku runs rampant and is probably the best i have used so far , sabina's are slow and leggy .

Best of luck with which ever you choose . Cheers Alpine

Alpine, how you found this post is well beyond me and deserves congratulations in itself haha

Pic one, rotated, with the long thin branch shortened to some nice compact well carved deadwood... and a semi cascade off to the left with that massive trunk... what you think? I could balance the complexity of the jinns and shari by training smaller pads in a larger number... hmmmmmmm...

Thanks for the advice mate, I wouldn't have seen the above if you didn't mention it!

-Mo

[alpineart]

Hi Mo , Boics pulled it up , i actually missed it . There are numerous good lines on the wood . Utilize the best for the windswept , slanting , informal or cascade . With Phoenix grafts there are so many things can be done with basically nothing as there is no wrong or right way to start because its just a piece of wood . Find the best character pieces to leave for the jin and shari's just make sure it flows well from plant/foliage to wood/jins keeping in mind the finished foliage in say 3-5 years .

All the best with it . Cheers Alpine

[MoGanic]

Hi Mo , Boics pulled it up , i actually missed it . There are numerous good lines on the wood . Utilize the best for the windswept , slanting , informal or cascade . With Phoenix grafts there are so many things can be done with basically nothing as there is no wrong or right way to start because its just a piece of wood . Find the best character pieces to leave for the jin and shari's just make sure it flows well from plant/foliage to wood/jins keeping in mind the finished foliage in say 3-5 years .

All the best with it . Cheers Alpine

Alpine mate, I'm just not feeling this piece of wood at all. You want it?

[MattA]

Mo,
Nice bit of wood, you may not be feeling it now but stow it away somewhere & have another look in 6 or 12mths. Unlike living trees, deadwood & stone can sit for decades without even a looking, then one day 'Aha'

[MoGanic]

Haha don't really know how to respond to that Matt.

The problem is that I'm not sure if this should be a Tanuki or just an accent to my benches... I do know however, that in the hands of someone more experienced such as Alpine, this could become something magnificent. From watching how he would deal with this and develop it into something superb, I would learn a great deal and also draw a significant amount of inspiration. In my mind it's much more beneficial to me to give it away. There will always be more where this little one came from .

Cheers mate,
-Mo

[MattA]

I think you responded pretty well, if I may edit & repost...

() I do know () in the hands of someone more experienced such as Alpine, this could become something magnificent. From watching how he would deal with this and develop it into something superb, I would learn a great deal and also draw a significant amount of inspiration. Alpine, ok if i bring it up & you can help me find the way?

Cheers mate,
-Mo

[MoGanic]

I think you responded pretty well, if I may edit & repost...

() I do know () in the hands of someone more experienced such as Alpine, this could become something magnificent. From watching how he would deal with this and develop it into something superb, I would learn a great deal and also draw a significant amount of inspiration. Alpine, ok if i bring it up & you can help me find the way?

Cheers mate,
-Mo