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how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 1:21 pm
by squizzy
Hi all,
Just wanted to know how I can id this pine I brought from a bonsai nursery about a year ago I have added a few photos to show the progression over the past 12 months
Chris
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 1:35 pm
by NBPCA
HI Chris, Can you give us a picture of the buds close up?
Thanks,
Leigh.
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 1:55 pm
by squizzy
Hi Leigh,
Please find attached.
Sorry as good as my camera allowed
Chris
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 2:00 pm
by Jarrod
I would say JBP, but a weak and hungry one? anyone elses thoughts?
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 2:05 pm
by NBPCA
Yep - I am with Jarrod - looks black to me.
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 2:10 pm
by LLK
The JBP is a 2 needle pine, whereas the Radiata is a 3 needle one.
Check on Wikipidia.
I'd tend towards the Radiata, because of this pine's fairly bright green colour - the JBPs are darker. Still, that might be due to lack of fertiliser.
Lisa
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 2:11 pm
by DavidN
Agreed. Black pine to me too.
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 2:14 pm
by squizzy
Hi Jarrod,
I pam wondering if you are refering to the trees health from the first or second photo. I purchased this tree a year ago in its current pot and I am unsure what I am doing when it comes to repotting pines. I think the fertalizing in its current soil gives too much salt build up. What time of the year and what technique is best for repotting and root pruning
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 2:23 pm
by LLK
For chrissakes, how can you keep guessing what pine it is when you don't know the number of the needles??
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 2:27 pm
by NBPCA
Looks like a 2 needle pine to me.
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 2:29 pm
by squizzy
Hi Guys. It has groups of 3 needles so I guess its a radiata?
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 2:35 pm
by Jarrod
Are they all 3 needle groups? i see some of both in one of the photos. that makes me rethink me original guess.
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 2:37 pm
by squizzy
The majority seem to be 3 but some are 2
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 2:49 pm
by daiviet_nguyen
The needles look to soft and wimpy to be a black pine. I tend toward radiata! Does it have a nice smell when you crush two or three needles in your hand?
Black pine does not have any scent at all; while radiata does (you can get addicted to it?).
Re: how can I be sure this is a black pine or a radiata
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 5:30 pm
by rowan
I also lean towards Radiata. Sometimes occasional needle bunches look like they are in 'twos' but it is only two needles stuck together. I once saw a radiata that looked like it had 'bunches' of only one needle, even very close up but when you massaged the needle it split into three seperate ones. Every bunch on the whole (5 metre) tree was like that.
It doesn't look that sick to my btw.