AusBonsai

Hi all!

Today I was approached to trial some "GoGo Juice" by a representative of Neutrog. The product has already proved sucessful with the rose / orchid societies and after some discussion, it was agreed it may have some benefitial aspects within our established ferting regimes.

They promptly supplied me with a few liters of this juice.
I have not used this product before, but from what I can gather it is an organic product which much like others available. The only difference is this mix is then digested by a bacterial mix the company cultures in vats.



Before I start experimenting with their product, I would like to know if anyone here has any experience with it, good, bad or neither. Any help would be appreciated.



From the can-

GOGO Juice is teeming with beneficial microbiology and is essentially a pro-biotic for you soil and plants. GOGO Juice combines the "catalystic" power of the billions of beneficial bacteria with the well documented benefits of applying kelp,seaweed, seaweed, fish and humic acid.

I might also note, there is not constitute analysis on the can.

Hi Mitchell
Bimer had a Nuetrog rep come and speak at the Feb meeting. He said that it is a pro biotic. I have just got used to the fact that people suddenly need to purchase pro biotics to be healthy and now they tell us the plants need it From what I remember he said it's a tonic along the lines of seasol so it unlike fertiliser it doesn't have to have a breakdown. The bacteria are activated when mixed with water and it's aimed at restoring soil that is dead or sterile. I won a can of it in a product draw but it's still sitting in the shed. I'll be interested to see how you go.


Tony

I have trialed the Seamungus with Junipers and Azalea etc. and had some good results, have not seen GoGo juice though. I too would like to see the results
In regards to Seasol, it has about 17% potassium (K) content.

The disease resistance seems like a plus with this stuff. I looked at it in bunnings but put it back down as it was not cheap. Might have to try some next year as the recommended application rate may make it fairly economical if it is beneficial.
Being a soil conditioner and not a fertiliser they are not required to supply an analysis but I have trouble trusting products that do not have it available. I would say there is very little nutrient content in this otherwise they would advertise the analysis. Wish I had talked to the rep I would have liked to see what he said when I asked for the analysis

Not sure where you get the 17% potassium (K) content for seasol Damian. The official analysis states 2% for home grade and double this for the commercial grade.
http://www.seasol.com.au/images/stories ... 7_2007.pdf

The fact that it is organic means that usage in warmer months, and when you have extra amounts of watering,IE raining like buggery. It will not be working to well.
Also it is said to improve your soil.

IF you have the right mix for your Bonsai it should not need improving. We have just had a rep from Yates, come to both our clubs to explain, that the State government is making manufacturers, reduce the amount of Phosphorus, contained in fertilisers.

It was interesting, she also showed us some products to help with water retention. Being very surprised that we water at least once per day, in the cooler months and at the moment up to 3 times per day.

She showed us a product called Waterwise Soil Saturator, it is said to improve water penetration. What interested me in this product is it looks like Coco peat texture but the colour is black.The other thing is it has an NPK although very low.
N 4% P 1.5% K 7.5%,then all the micro elements. So I am trialing some.
As a friend has, he said it works for him.
He travels a lot, and has to rely on Family to water his trees, with the usual hit and miss and the occasional death. Since using it he has seen good results.
Will let you guys know, by the way Mitchell it is available at work. In 5 litre and 20litre bags. No I do not have shares in Yates.
Cheers Pup.

Hi Guys,

For what it is worth, Probiotics do work, they break down organics into usable products availble to the plants in a process many call remineralization of nutirent.

I use them, and have worked with them for many years in the Aquaculture and Aquarium industry, i can vouch for them.

The reason there is no active constituants on the bottle is that probitic strains of bacteria are gaurded very closely, if it works, then it is a very valuable product worth quite a bit of money.

microbiology in soil is important, look at the use of compost tea and its effect on revitalizing soil, as the microbes break down nutrient they become more biologically available to plants, and when they die off they release nutrients into the soil.

Pup is right to some extent, if the soil is ALIVE with microbes then there is no need, but where soil mixes, especially primarily inorgnaic mixes are lacking in microbiology, this would be something i would reach for.

Probiotics are also formulated so that bacteria that is the best for the job intended (i.e there might be many strains useful for breaking down humus, but one may be be better at it than others) are usually isolated and applied in massive numbers.

Probiotics have a huge market in many industires, i know they work, the research is there for many industries, including cattle, Aquaculture, human disgestion and yes even plants.

Take it as you will, but if the science is there then i say its worth a go.

Just my 2 cents.

G

Bretts wrote:
Not sure where you get the 17% potassium (K) content for seasol Damian. The official analysis states 2% for home grade and double this for the commercial grade.
http://www.seasol.com.au/images/stories ... 7_2007.pdf

Hmmm, I am positive that I read it on their site some years ago, well I guess 2-4% it is.