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European Ash

Posted: March 21st, 2011, 4:21 pm
by DaveL
Hey guys just throwing up a few pics of my European Ash that i have been developing for about 2 years. I wish I took some before shots as it was quite the ugly duckling. I have found this species quite a challenge with the compounding leaf structure, however they do respond well to clip and grow method. I'm contemplating putting this guy in a bonsai pot soon for further refinement, what do you guys think?

Cheers Dave,

Re: European Ash

Posted: March 21st, 2011, 8:02 pm
by Watto
Dave,
I think it got a great future. If you have a look at a post from the NBPCA where the guys have reduced the leaf size quite condsiderably on an Ash you will understand what can be achieved with thtis species.
Watto
PS - if you wouldn't mind, could you please reduce the size of your photos before posting as it helps everyone. Many thanks.

Re: European Ash

Posted: March 21st, 2011, 9:26 pm
by DaveL
Thanks Watto,

I'll remember to resize next time :)

Truth be told it was actually that NBPCA ash which made me focus on getting a result from my tree. I had all but given up on the species because of it's compounding and unpredictable leaf structure. Since then I have noticed with regular pruning the leaf size reduces considerably. Before I started any branch development the leaf size would have easily been double what it is now.

Re: European Ash

Posted: March 22nd, 2011, 7:30 am
by mickaus
I really appreciate the large photos and the ability to see the fine detail.

I don't mind if I have to wait a little bit to see them, but there is nothing more annoying than being teased by a low quality picture :imo:

Re: European Ash

Posted: March 22nd, 2011, 3:14 pm
by DaveL
Any advice on this trees direction?

Re: European Ash

Posted: March 22nd, 2011, 5:03 pm
by GavinG
I don't want to be a dampener, but the longer you leave it in the grow pot, the sooner the top will thicken in proportion with that good solid trunk. And you can get more growth/thickness/complication in the branches if its growing solidly. Maybe leave the leaf cutting until you have a good strong top and more complexity in the branches - one stage at a time. When you are happy with the framework, go crazy with the leaf cutting. Good start, should become a fine tree. Have a look back at the gingko thread for a tree that has a solid trunk, but ramifies gradually and evenly. To get that, you need to grow long, and cut back, x20 or so. Lots.

Good trunk, worth the work.

Gavin

Re: European Ash

Posted: March 22nd, 2011, 5:51 pm
by bonsai of tree
That's a pretty great one, If i owned it it would look alot lot different. By the way I REALLY want that juniper in the backround.

Re: European Ash

Posted: March 22nd, 2011, 9:07 pm
by DaveL
Good advice Gavin :wave: . It's always good to have a reality check sometimes and you are right the branch structure has a while to go. This tree has been a good journey for me as I've experimented a fair few techniques, been quite harsh in some circumstances and fumbled my way through to what I think is a reasonable base. There is no disputing this species is tough!

How would you in-visage this tree bonsai of the tree? By the way that juniper in the background is a 1 year old cutting.

Re: European Ash

Posted: March 22nd, 2011, 9:10 pm
by Craig
Dave, nice trunk, if i can ask; how thick is the base and what is the height of the tree, cheers mate :)

Re: European Ash

Posted: March 22nd, 2011, 9:21 pm
by DaveL
Thanks Craig.

This tree is Approx 90 - 100mm wide at base and 300 - 350mm high at appex, will get some proper measurement tomorrow.