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Noelanders Trophy 2011

Posted: February 2nd, 2011, 9:09 pm
by Bretts
The Noelanders Trophy has become a very prestigious event in Europe. I think it is held in Belgium. They recently held #12
Not much has been said about this on the forum so I thought some might enjoy talking about some of the amazing trees exhibited.

First up I thought a Forrest might be interesting to look at.
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All pictures I post here will be from Walter Pall's travel log Blog
http://walter-pall-travelogues.blogspot ... -results=7
Why not bring a bonsai over that you like and we can discuss all that we like and anything we think could be done better :cool:

Re: Noelanders Trophy 2011

Posted: February 3rd, 2011, 7:42 am
by MattA
Hey Brett,

Thanks for the link to Walters blog... I have seen a few photos from Neolanders, as a yamadori nut I get very green when I see all the stunning trees collected all over Europe.

This is my pick from Walters photos, more for the pot than tree, tho both are stunning they just dont work together for me...
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Think I might have to have a go at making a pot similar to this... I rreeaaalllyyy llllliiiikkkeeeee it :tu:

Matt

Re: Noelanders Trophy 2011

Posted: February 3rd, 2011, 8:31 am
by hbk13007
Thanks for sharing the link Bretts.

Matt - couldn't agree with you more. Pot - love it!! :cool: Tree - fantastic (but a bit too much deadwood up top for my liking). But together, they combination appears disproportional and unbalanced. That being said, I would be envious to have something of that quality in my collection!! :D

Re: Noelanders Trophy 2011

Posted: February 3rd, 2011, 8:42 am
by Jarrod
Matt, I think the tree would work with the pot better if it was planted on the other side of the pot, to the right!

Re: Noelanders Trophy 2011

Posted: February 3rd, 2011, 10:33 am
by rowan
I actually like this tree as it is. It looks just like an old lone cypress in a paddock. Reminds me of the farms around where we had ours.

Re: Noelanders Trophy 2011

Posted: February 3rd, 2011, 10:59 am
by Pup
Planted more to the right would work a lot better, then you would not notice the pot so much, like a good painting.

my :2c: Pup

Re: Noelanders Trophy 2011

Posted: February 3rd, 2011, 1:18 pm
by Bretts
I thought the pot was a little unusual for the tree but I think it goes well with the tree that is also a little unusual. I love the spear jins it is kinda freaky. :shock:
I also like the position it kinda keeps with the all out of whack theme :lol: Makes you keep looking.

I find the forest interesting as well. The way it sits so far back in the pot. I wonder if the top branches of the two main trees could be reduced and fan out a little more. But then agian I am kinda liking the reach for the sky secondary branches I have seen a bit lately on deciduous trees.
I find the use of very small trees/branches interesting instead of using little accents in the lawn?
I think I would rather a more natural pot and stand though.

Re: Noelanders Trophy 2011

Posted: February 3rd, 2011, 4:54 pm
by MattA
Brett I hadnt really noticed till you mentioned about the placement of the group being so far back.. it is kinda uncomfortable looking, the moss "lawn" is superb, mainly because its always been growing there instead of placed for showing. Those little mounds of moss always look unnatural, no matter how well they have been placed.

Seeing as so many mentioned it, I played around with the image to see if moving the tree made any improvement ( I should have moved it further but it was enough hassle to get this done)... It is an improvement but I still think the tree & pot would be better with other partners...
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This one reminds me of the mulberry in my great uncles garden that I used to climb as a kid.
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& whats this I see...pinnate leaves, nice reduction in them too...
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Matt

Re: Noelanders Trophy 2011

Posted: February 3rd, 2011, 5:37 pm
by LLK
& whats this I see...pinnate leaves, nice reduction in them too...
No doubt about it. I wonder what tree it is, that can still be in leaf in Jan. in N. Europe. Maybe grown in a cool house. Ancient tree, perhaps reduced vitality contributed to leaf reduction. :lost:

Thanks for the link, Brett. Walter's photos are the best! :yes:

Re: Noelanders Trophy 2011

Posted: February 3rd, 2011, 6:54 pm
by Craig
LLK wrote:
& whats this I see...pinnate leaves, nice reduction in them too...
No doubt about it. I wonder what tree it is,
Could it possibly be a Tamarind Tree :?: :?:

Re: Noelanders Trophy 2011

Posted: February 3rd, 2011, 6:59 pm
by Pat093
these trees make me feel so small
Mind blowing....

Re: Noelanders Trophy 2011

Posted: February 3rd, 2011, 8:39 pm
by Bretts
My best guess was Pistachio and I was right :tounge:

Can't find the species for the one that reminds you of a mulberry Matt. I too have great memories of a massive Mulberry tree. I also like this bonsai very much. I can't see much that I would change and just take in the masterful way they have made the tree work although seeing more surface roots develop will be magical.
Pat093 wrote:these trees make me feel so small
Mind blowing....

It was interesting to hear from Ryan being an American that he believes the europeans are this // close to excellence with their trees but the next step above this is the hardest to accomplish :palm: :lost:

Re: Noelanders Trophy 2011

Posted: February 4th, 2011, 8:59 am
by MattA
The final step.....to perfection...

I had to think about it for a while & then had a little play on Paintbrush... changes to the "mulberry" I could make are minimal & even then may not be needed if seen in 3 dimensions (where is the 360 button?) Just little things to open up & seperate a few lines, the central trunk & some branching is also a little disparate in size compared to the base section but will eventually smooth out with another decade or 2..
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LLK wrote: Ancient tree, perhaps reduced vitality contributed to leaf reduction. :lost:
Leaf reduction is a result of good horticultural practice & rigourous training, only a strong vital tree can make a bonsai as fine as this... Grant's ash shows this admirably viewtopic.php?f=129&t=4827

Matt