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Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 8th, 2011, 5:30 pm
by archie1979
Gday Everyone,
I thought I might post some pics of a big olive I have been working on recently I have just finished trimming all the new growth and wiring some of the branches, its starting to look good I think.
I am still wondering how I am going to go about carving some deadwood around the chainsaw marks and a few other old branches.

Anyway here are the pics

comments queries are all welcome
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Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 8th, 2011, 5:44 pm
by ozzy
Nice bark and taper, looks like you may be going for the horizontal bar branch look though with those wired branches, forget about using all that growth for your branches and instead wire them downwards even further then once they've got a bit of meat on them cut right back to the first or second shoot on the branch, you will get way better looking branches with lots of serious movement, just like a real tree ;)


Heres a pic to explain what I mean ...


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And a picture ...


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The dotted line shows the original path of the branch if left untrimmed, also you can see the difference between the cut back branch and the un trimmed branch in the background, wire down hard though as the next stage of the branch will be going up and you don't want it to end up going past the horizontal, best to keep it below.

Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 8th, 2011, 7:54 pm
by bodhidharma
Nice stock :yes: Ozzy's right, that is the best way to develop good branching. Do it on all my elms.

Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 9th, 2011, 8:10 am
by archie1979
Cheers for the info guys, I will let these babies grow out and give em the chop.

Nice branching

Cheers Archie

Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 9th, 2011, 8:26 am
by Beaumatsu
wow this olive looks great i want an olive now just one question what soil are you growing your olive in.

thank you

beaumatsu

Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 9th, 2011, 10:58 am
by Tony Bebb
Nice Olive Archie

That bark is fantastic. Good to get one with that development instead of the smooth stuff that is so common.

Great advice from Ozzie on the branches. Follow his lead.

Re the carving. First let the top branch grow unhindered to fatten up and creat a little better taper and sap strength to ensure its survival when you carve. You can start to do some know, but I wouldn't get too close or remove bark under it at this stage. You have a nice piece of natural shari on the trunk, and you could link up the top with this if you want. I would leave the top as a jaggered jin and run the carving down and across the trunk a little to that natural shari and remove the litle trunk on the right. Rotating the front a little to the left would pick up the carving nicely.

Best Regards

Tony

Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 10th, 2011, 8:17 am
by archie1979
Hi Guys,
I really appreciate the input, I am going to re-wire this today as ozzy mentioned in his photographs then let it grow out and see if I cant get any of that wonderful branching happening.

I will post some more pics this arvo when I have finished the work.

Thanks again everyone

Archie
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Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 10th, 2011, 9:03 am
by ozzy
Hey no worries ... I'm here to help :D

Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 10th, 2011, 9:22 am
by ozzy
Heres some more serious clip and grow to inspire you :tu:





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Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 10th, 2011, 9:40 am
by archie1979
Wow Ozzy how many seasons did it take to to ramify like this ?

Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 10th, 2011, 10:02 am
by PeterH
ozzy wrote:Hey no worries ... I'm here to help :D


:shock: :lol:

Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 10th, 2011, 11:54 am
by ozzy
archie1979 wrote:Wow Ozzy how many seasons did it take to to ramify like this ?


I dug that one up about eight years ago.

Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 10th, 2011, 11:55 am
by ozzy
PeterH wrote:
ozzy wrote:Hey no worries ... I'm here to help :D


:shock: :lol:




:tounge: :D

Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 10th, 2011, 2:54 pm
by Pup
ozzy wrote:
PeterH wrote:
ozzy wrote:Hey no worries ... I'm here to help :D


:shock: :lol:




:tounge: :D
Now thats the OZZY I know :twisted: :twisted: :tounge: :beer: :lol: :? :whistle:

Re: Big Yamadori Olive slowly starting to take shape

Posted: January 10th, 2011, 8:09 pm
by MattA
Hey Archie,

Thats looking good and with Ozzy now helping you with it look out....

Ozzy those branchs are awesome.. clip & grow clip & grow clip & grow.. would love to see the whole of that last tree...

Matt