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Collected Peach (from a really nice neighbour)

Posted: October 28th, 2010, 1:28 pm
by jozaeh
Hey Everyone,
This is my first post sharing one of my trees. Any feedback or tips or comments appreciated!

The fruits of my first ever big dig up of a tree for bonsai. It's a mother of a peach that a lovely neighbour a few blocks away gracefully let me dig up from her yard (I also dug away a big bougy as payment for her, she was so glad to see that 'evil thing' go). I was driving home from work one day, mid-august, and i noticed these brilliant pink flowers all over a big peach tree. I pulled over with the intention of possibly clipping a few small cuttings from the overhang above the footpath, but then i noticed that there was a sister peach just a few metres from the main tree. I dropped a quaint letter in the letterbox asking if I could possibly 'relieve' my neighbour of the second peach.

She called me back with a yes, (wahoo!) and I went over for a light pre-dig to see what I was working with. And my hopes were shot down: The Peach had this huge side running root, the thickness of a forearm going up the side of the yard, no hair roots to speak of, and against all my bonsai urgings I didn't have the heart to kill it by removing it. So I decided to let the little lady stay in the ground. Sad and packing up my tools, I heard my neighbour say "wait, Is this is another peach?".

It was. Score! There was a third peach and my first dig up was again given the green light. So the next weekend i went with tools and spent a neat two hours digging, rocking, and lifting the peach out of her spot. GOSH you earn it, the awkward angles of sawing a root between two rocks, the blade jamming with soft root tissue and trunk pressure, my right arm was gonna fall off.

But I eventually got her out, with some nice hair roots, built a grow box and she's doing great since then. I don't have any major plans for her yet, except to let her health return and eventually do some carving. I've also read that the flowers only appear on longer shoots, so to get flowers in spring you sacrifice the compact tree shape, but we'll see.

thanks,
Jozaeh

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The bright pink flowers of the original tree.

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The peach in her spot before the dig.

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After some scraping and dirt scooping. Hooray for fine roots!

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I had forgotten about these old coke bottles! Just a hidden gift under the peach's soil.

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a bit of size comparison next to my car.

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I didn't realise just how much top canopy this peach was supporting. This took me more time to chop up into managable sizes and cram into my tiny hatch as it did to actually dig the peach up.

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I was fortunate to get the peach with some good finer roots.

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The peach in it's grow box, I gave her a good drink of seasol as well, and bagged her up to keep her protected (BIG thanks to Chris from Red Dragon Bonsai currumbin for the tips on collected material!)

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A few weeks later and she was shooting out new buds all over the place.

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and this is up to last week, the shoots are going strong, hooray for not killing her!

jozaeh.

Re: Collected Peach (from a really nice neighbour)

Posted: October 28th, 2010, 2:07 pm
by astroboy76
hey mate,

as for flowering there is no drama and u dont need long brnahces to obtain them. this is an awesome find mate!

what i woudl do firstly is spend the next few season building you branch structure (ramification) and not worry about flowering so much. peaches ramify pretty readily.

once you have your basic branch structure remember that peaches predominantly flower on one year old wood (last years growth. so you can easily allow a branch to grow till mid summer then cut it back to shape. the raminder will flower next spring, then it back so only a cm or two of new growth is left. this will shoot then just let it grow till mid summer and cut it back to shape. this way each spring you will get flowers and have it keep its shape

Re: Collected Peach (from a really nice neighbour)

Posted: October 28th, 2010, 3:17 pm
by jozaeh
astroboy76 wrote:hey mate,

as for flowering there is no drama and u dont need long brnahces to obtain them. this is an awesome find mate!

what i woudl do firstly is spend the next few season building you branch structure (ramification) and not worry about flowering so much. peaches ramify pretty readily.

once you have your basic branch structure remember that peaches predominantly flower on one year old wood (last years growth. so you can easily allow a branch to grow till mid summer then cut it back to shape. the raminder will flower next spring, then it back so only a cm or two of new growth is left. this will shoot then just let it grow till mid summer and cut it back to shape. this way each spring you will get flowers and have it keep its shape
thanks for the tips astroboy76, I appreciate it.

Good stuff, I'm already onto the rammo path you recommended. I've FINALLY been given the patience to not let myself speed pot or attack a tree as soon as I get it (it took me a couple 'eager' years to get that mindset). So I'm going to spend the next few seasons as you said, cutting it back good and hard to develop the ramification. And score with hearing that peaches ramify readily! Oh that's golden! I actually gave the peach's 2 foot long shoots a trim back and already the 1st, 2nd and even 3rd dormant buds have started to burst in response to the trim. So rammo won't be a problem.

Thanks for the flowering explanation, i always got confused with the "previous year's growth" rules. And in a few seasons, hopefully I can open up my own florist with the peach's flower rewards, ha!

jozaeh

Re: Collected Peach (from a really nice neighbour)

Posted: October 28th, 2010, 8:20 pm
by MattA
Hey Jozaeh,

Welcome to Ausbonsai, we all look forward to sharing your journey & our own experiences.

That peach looks a good score. Its always a good feeling to see a tree you laboured to get out the ground takes on a new life. First priority is to just let it grow wild for a year 2 to get a decent root system established and then look at branch selection next winter. I would recomend not repotting for atleast 2-3years unless its growth is not as strong towards the end of the second year.

keep us posted as the tree progresses

Matt

Re: Collected Peach (from a really nice neighbour)

Posted: October 28th, 2010, 9:29 pm
by kcpoole
Very nice Score and Welcome
I also collected one recntly, but from my own backyard :-) Had to get rid of it as the tank will be going there.

Mine is a little bit thcker round the base as yours, but not as tall. It is a twin trunk beast, but it looks like the larger side has possibly died off as i has not shot at all on that side where the shorter side has.:-(. Oh well maybe just a carving opportunity :-).

Be looking forwqrd to seeing this in a year or 2 :-)

Ps I do love the flower colour on yours.

Ken

Re: Collected Peach (from a really nice neighbour)

Posted: October 29th, 2010, 11:43 am
by jozaeh
kcpoole wrote:Very nice Score and Welcome
I also collected one recntly, but from my own backyard :-) Had to get rid of it as the tank will be going there.

Mine is a little bit thcker round the base as yours, but not as tall. It is a twin trunk beast, but it looks like the larger side has possibly died off as i has not shot at all on that side where the shorter side has.:-(. Oh well maybe just a carving opportunity :-).

Be looking forwqrd to seeing this in a year or 2 :-)

Ps I do love the flower colour on yours.

Ken
Hiya Ken,
ahh a fellow peach digger-up-erer! Oh shame on your twin trunk beast having one side die off, but yes, that just means you might have a canvas for great carving work. Feel free to post a photo of your peach if you haven't already, i'm always curious to see other trees. and yes, the flowers on this one are really pretty, I lucked out.

see ya,
Jozaeh

Re: Collected Peach (from a really nice neighbour)

Posted: October 29th, 2010, 12:15 pm
by jozaeh
MattA wrote:Hey Jozaeh,

Welcome to Ausbonsai, we all look forward to sharing your journey & our own experiences.

That peach looks a good score. Its always a good feeling to see a tree you laboured to get out the ground takes on a new life. First priority is to just let it grow wild for a year 2 to get a decent root system established and then look at branch selection next winter. I would recomend not repotting for atleast 2-3years unless its growth is not as strong towards the end of the second year.

keep us posted as the tree progresses

Matt
Hey Matt,
thanks heaps for the welcome and for the tips! And you're spot on with leaving it grow wild for a year or two, that's a good plan. And you betcha, i'll keep updates on the peachy on here for sure.

see ya!
Jozaeh

Re: Collected Peach (from a really nice neighbour)

Posted: October 30th, 2010, 9:04 am
by kcpoole
I posted a few fotos in the drop in sunday thread here,
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=953&p=65393&hilit=peach#p65393

the large of the 2 stumps is dying off by the look of it

Ke

Re: Collected Peach (from a really nice neighbour)

Posted: November 1st, 2010, 3:46 pm
by jozaeh
kcpoole wrote:I posted a few fotos in the drop in sunday thread here,
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=953&p=65393&hilit=peach#p65393

the large of the 2 stumps is dying off by the look of it

Ke
Oh wow Ken, and lucky you having it in your own backyard! I just dug up a 1 foot tall celtis that my yard has running rampant. (celtis is all my yard seems to have). It's not too gorgeous, but is already shooting well in it's stryo grow box. Oh and your peach has some nice thick flare at the bottom there too, I'm jealous that mine doesn't have that much flare. And keep me posted if you end up doing some carving on that dying off single stump part (may it rest in peace), I'm always inetrested in the carving process, especially with getting it to look real and natural.

see ya,
Jozaeh

Re: Collected Peach (from a really nice neighbour)

Posted: January 21st, 2011, 10:38 am
by bonsaimaster1
hello i saw you have a huge peach tree i would like to purchase from you, and i live in the US and was wondering if i could buy if from you please contact me back my email is dallischurch@gmail.com

Re: Collected Peach (from a really nice neighbour)

Posted: January 21st, 2011, 10:46 am
by bonsaimaster1
sorry i mean jozeah i would like to buy that big peach trunk you dug up i d like to buy it from you. my email is dallischurch@gmail.com

Re: Collected Peach (from a really nice neighbour)

Posted: January 21st, 2011, 11:32 am
by jozaeh
bonsaimaster1 wrote:sorry i mean jozeah i would like to buy that big peach trunk you dug up i d like to buy it from you. my email is dallischurch@gmail.com
Hey!
Well i'm glad you like my peach stump, but unfortunately I'm wanting to keep the girl for my own collection. So i won't be interested in selling her. but thanks for the comment and interest.

see ya!
Jozaeh