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+Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: September 10th, 2010, 6:54 pm
by aussie4bonsai
+This is what I came home with 13/11/09.
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+The stump is sitting on a 20 litre bucket.
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+cleaned up and ready for its new home.
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15/6/2010 I reduced the height removed it from a 100litre pot and repotted into a foam box ready for the chainsaw.
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+This photo was taken on 27/8/2010
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+Today the chainsaw.
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+Then the planer
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+Glue and cable tie, this will be the front
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+and the back
+With all the new growth starting I though today would be a good day to make the big cut.
Tomorrow I will clean up and post the photo

Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: September 10th, 2010, 7:32 pm
by alpineart
Hi Aussie, nicely done mate . I haven't tried this process so i will be keen to see the progress . I do have a couple of Acer Campestre that could do with this method applied . Thanks for posting .Cheers Alpine

Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: September 10th, 2010, 10:30 pm
by Loretta
Hi Aussie,
Can you please tell me what you did here and for what purpose (or end result.) It seems you have cut the tree down the middle and then glued it back together again :? What are the benefits???
Loretta

Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: September 10th, 2010, 10:55 pm
by Jamie
Loretta wrote:Hi Aussie,
Can you please tell me what you did here and for what purpose (or end result.) It seems you have cut the tree down the middle and then glued it back together again :? What are the benefits???
Loretta
hi loretta :D

the process actually gives the tree taper, what has been done is the tree has basicallyhad a vertical wedge cut out of the tree, which then is put back together with the other sied and instant taper is created!

there is a thread here showing a little more detailed process, will try and find it for you

jamie :D

EDIT- here is the link viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3562&hilit=willow+leaf+fig

Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: September 11th, 2010, 8:16 am
by Loretta
the process actually gives the tree taper, what has been done is the tree has basicallyhad a vertical wedge cut out of the tree, which then is put back together with the other sied and "]Hi Aussie,
Can you please tell me what you did here and for what purpose (or end result.) It seems you have cut the tree d
Jamie wrote:[quote="Lorettaown the middle and then glued it back together again :? What are the benefits???
Loretta


hi loretta :Dinstant taper is created!

there is a thread here showing a little more detailed process, will try and find it for you

jamie :D

EDIT- here is the link viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3562&hilit=willow+leaf+fig [/quote]


Thanks Jamie...I'll have a look later...leaving now for a Tony Bebb workshop...must run

cheer Loretta

Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: September 11th, 2010, 5:45 pm
by aussie4bonsai
+Well this is the end result and I am happy with the result.
As you can see I reduced the height.
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Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: September 11th, 2010, 6:40 pm
by Glenda
Jamie wrote:......the process actually gives the tree taper, what has been done is the tree has basicallyhad a vertical wedge cut out of the tree, which then is put back together with the other sied and instant taper is created!

there is a thread here showing a little more detailed process, will try and find it for you

jamie :D

EDIT- here is the link viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3562&hilit=willow+leaf+fig
I've seent this technicque talked about on this forum previously, and have wondered. Could this be done twice, to give taper front to back as well as side to side? This seems to give great taper along the cut, but not so much on the other side.

Glenda

Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: September 11th, 2010, 7:25 pm
by Jamie
Glenda wrote:
Jamie wrote:......the process actually gives the tree taper, what has been done is the tree has basicallyhad a vertical wedge cut out of the tree, which then is put back together with the other sied and instant taper is created!

there is a thread here showing a little more detailed process, will try and find it for you

jamie :D

EDIT- here is the link viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3562&hilit=willow+leaf+fig
I've seent this technicque talked about on this forum previously, and have wondered. Could this be done twice, to give taper front to back as well as side to side? This seems to give great taper along the cut, but not so much on the other side.

Glenda
If I was to do this technique both ways I would do it a few years inbetween so that the new wood can have some thickness on the new body, ofcourse the strength of the glue helps but nothing beats time when it comes to trees.

jamie :D

Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: September 11th, 2010, 7:45 pm
by aussie4bonsai
alpineart wrote:Hi Aussie, nicely done mate . I haven't tried this process so i will be keen to see the progress . I do have a couple of Acer Campestre that could do with this method applied . Thanks for posting .Cheers Alpine
+Hi Alpine
I have tried it with Trident Maple and it has been successful.
The most important thing in doing this is to have good growth on
the top of each side.
Barry

Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: September 12th, 2010, 10:29 am
by aussie4bonsai
Loretta wrote:Hi Aussie,
Can you please tell me what you did here and for what purpose (or end result.) It seems you have cut the tree down the middle and then glued it back together again :? What are the benefits???
Loretta
+Hi Loretta
To explain why I would do a V-cut on a stump:-
I’m 69 this year so I will not have the time that some young members have to develop our bonsai.
So I am willing to try anything that will save time in developing a bonsai from old nursery stock to show you the results on this Lillypilly I have taken another photo of the twin to the one I have just worked on I got both of them at the same time and one I was able to work on because it had some low branches the other as you can see didn’t so I layered the top and the nic cut in the trunk to promote growth in the area below this was done 3month back and the top pruned heavily because all the growth was at the top.
Now you can see what has been achieved in 10 months on both trees.

When Steve and I did that willow fig I used Gorilla glue, I had to get it from America, now I use a Aussie made polyurethane glue called Vise.
Barry
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Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: January 16th, 2011, 11:55 am
by aussie4bonsai
Just an update on the last photo.
The layer was cut off this weekend photos below,
I will leave it in the water tray till I see roots come out of the bottom of the pot.
The V Nick in the trunk has worked and I have plenty of new growth down low to play with.
The next step will be to repot the base an expose the roots more, and until it becomes stable in its new foam box (stable enough to chainsaw) I will plan the V-cut.
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Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: January 17th, 2011, 2:23 pm
by aussie4bonsai
After cleaning away all the clay and dirt from the root ball I found two layers of roots the best being the bottom and if I cut the top roots off I end up with a very ugly trunk.
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This was my choice as I would like to see it in a Bonsai pot one day.
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This side I thought I would do some root grafting, nothing ventured nothing gained.
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Two roots for grafting.
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And the two grafts
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foam box soaking in seasol after repotting
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and I repotted the bottom root section to see what will happen
Barry

Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: May 20th, 2012, 4:58 pm
by aussie4bonsai
An update on the first Lillypilly.
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also last December the 2nd lillypilly was V cut same as the first,
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Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: May 20th, 2012, 5:43 pm
by alpineart
Hi Aussie4bonsai , nice progression and well done . It seems this method has a lot of purpose in bonsai . The first trunk has powered on considerable and taken on a great shape .

Cheers Alpineart

Re: +Yamadori Lillypilly

Posted: May 20th, 2012, 7:32 pm
by Paulneill
Very good technique I will be trying this one .
It could even be tried when still attached to a tree and then layered off.
But would need notched below the base to allow it to bend .
Marine grade stainless steel screws could be used to screw the 2 half's together and Counter sunk i don't like the idea of using glue as I can see it doing anything.