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Fortunella survives the rat
Posted: June 23rd, 2010, 12:00 pm
by ric
This is one of the Citrus that were chewed on by the supposed rat. I thought I would share a picture with you befor I chop the fruit and repot

Re: Fortunella survives the rat
Posted: June 23rd, 2010, 1:41 pm
by Mitchell

Very nice!
Must start some fruiting plants.... Amazing.!

Re: Fortunella survives the rat
Posted: June 23rd, 2010, 5:16 pm
by Joel
Does anybody know how to keep the bush rats away? I want a deterrent not a rodenticide. They ate some tubers of my unusual australian terrestrial orchids. They also climb and re-position wired branches.
Joel
Re: Fortunella survives the rat
Posted: June 23rd, 2010, 5:29 pm
by kvan64
scatter some rat pellets on the grounds near your bonsai?
Re: Fortunella survives the rat
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 12:33 am
by Jamie
gday joel,
i was under the impression that bush rats cant climb..? i remember seeing it on a documentry..
just done a little reading and it seems the organic method of deterring rats and mice is the use of a herb pepper mint, supposedly what it does is some how give of a smell similar to felines?? just what i read anyways, couldnt hurt to give it a crack!
jamie

Re: Fortunella survives the rat
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 12:07 pm
by Jerry Meislik
Nice Fortunella. It is one of my favorite plant species but slow to get any trunk size.
Jerry
Re: Fortunella survives the rat
Posted: June 25th, 2010, 6:13 pm
by aussie4bonsai
+Hi ric
Try Four and Plaster of Paris 60/40. ( keep dry)
They don’t eat much after that and you will find skeletons with white plugs in them.
Good luck Barry
Re: Fortunella survives the rat
Posted: June 25th, 2010, 6:43 pm
by Greth
Catmint and Catnip (Nepeta) species, are meant to be the ones to deter mice, though with my experience of these kind of herbal folklore stories, you are probably best off growing catmint in a terracotta pot and then throwing the pot at the mice/rats.
While I admit that Strabo had a point :
I shall never lack a good supply of common mint, in all its many varieties, all its colours, all its virtues. But if any man can name the full list of all the kinds and all the properties of mint, he must know how many sparks Vulcan sees fly into the air from his vast furnace beneath Etna. Strabo, The Little Garden , 840 A.D.
I have found not a single reference to Peppermint or any other Mint species being used against rodents, just spent a while going back thru every reference from Ancient Greece onwards. Wormes in a manne's teeth, maybe, but not rodents. If Jamie can find his reference, I would be interested to read it, but it isnt in any of the most comprehensive herb books I have read, and I have read hundreds, especially folklore and history.
Best I can offer you is hire of a champion mouser! Not letting him go for free, he just found a nest of baby bunnies and is bringing one home every day.
On the Bushrats dont climb myth, I am reminded of the snake researcher who thought the Death Adders he studied never climbed, until he did a careful tracking, and after that always checked up as well as down.
Re: Fortunella survives the rat
Posted: June 25th, 2010, 7:40 pm
by Jamie
a quick google search will find a lot of info...
here is one
http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Rid-of-Mice-Naturally
heres another
http://www.ehow.com/way_5183297_rat-rep ... cipes.html
and one more
http://www.ehow.com/about_5335999_mint-repel-rats.html
and another
http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/801/
as for bush rats not climbing i remember watching a zoo doco about it all as the bush rat enclosure was getting invaded by common rats, so was just going off the info i seen.. do you need referances for that too???
Re: Fortunella survives the rat
Posted: June 25th, 2010, 7:50 pm
by Chris
On the Bushrats dont climb myth, I am reminded of the snake researcher who thought the Death Adders he studied never climbed, until he did a careful tracking, and after that always checked up as well as down.
theres the awnser go buy or catch a death adder
Re: Fortunella survives the rat
Posted: June 25th, 2010, 7:52 pm
by Greth
No academic references there, just a bunch of internet rumour. Worth as much as the paper they werent printed on. Find me a real reference to a real herb author, not LariAnn from Wisconsin, and I will include it in my book as an amusing mention from folklore. But still not recommend it unless I have some scientific papers too.
LariAnn was probably the one who posted it to Wiki, where it has been copied by the other two.
Pmsl laughing Chris, yes snake keeping would also be a great deterrent, didn't suggest it as most people arent keen on them. You could even go a python, and non venemous.
Re: Fortunella survives the rat
Posted: June 26th, 2010, 9:01 am
by aussie4bonsai
aussie4bonsai wrote:+Hi ric
Try Four and Plaster of Paris 60/40. ( keep dry)
They don’t eat much after that and you will find skeletons with white plugs in them.
Good luck Barry
Ric
It's Flour and Plaster of Paris
Barry