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Species ID please

Posted: July 8th, 2025, 7:52 pm
by Paulneill
Domes anyone know what type of tree this is.
Thanks.

It’s developed these little cones recently. I’ve only owned it for 2 years. I’ve no idea what it is can only assume it’s a conifer.

Re: Species ID please

Posted: July 8th, 2025, 7:53 pm
by Paulneill
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Re: Species ID please

Posted: July 8th, 2025, 7:54 pm
by Paulneill
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Re: Species ID please

Posted: July 8th, 2025, 10:08 pm
by Ryceman3
Picea Glauca possibly.
These get sold a lot around Christmas time…
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Re: Species ID please

Posted: July 9th, 2025, 6:13 pm
by shibui
I'm pretty confident it's a Pinus species.
The juvenile foliage is making it hard to ID. In the close-up I can see a couple of double needles as the adult foliage is beginning to emerge. See blue circle on this screenshot
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The 'cones' are next year's growth buds getting ready to open into 'candles'
Persistent juvenile foliage is indicative of both Pinus halapensis (Allepo pine) and Pinus pinea (Italian Stone Pine).
Any history of where it came from could shed light on which is more likely.

Re: Species ID please

Posted: July 10th, 2025, 10:37 am
by Raniformis
Yeah, looks like pinus pinea to me.
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Re: Species ID please

Posted: July 10th, 2025, 8:39 pm
by Paulneill
Thanks very much for the reply’s everyone
Pretty sure it an Italian stone pine. The trunk has knobbly bits and there is the odd random long mature needles.

Still a bit confused as to why the folage is 99% juvenile when the trees as at least 5/6 years old how’s that work?

Re: Species ID please

Posted: July 11th, 2025, 10:14 am
by Raniformis
They hang onto juvenile foliage for upto 10yrs and revert back to juvenile foliage under stress apparently. One of the problems of working with this species is trying to ballance this foliage with the longer adult foliage, most people seem to opt for the shorter juvenile foliage.

Re: Species ID please

Posted: July 11th, 2025, 4:34 pm
by shibui
I found that Pinus pinea has mostly juvenile foliage for 3-5 years too. Longer if they are under any stress or growing slow so i guess that's what you are seeing. Pruning can make them revert to juvenile growth, even after the mature needles. appear.
The adult needles are thick and reasonably long so it's often better to try to keep the juvenile growth going as long as possible because it looks neater. That's usually achieved by hard pruning every few years to remove any mature needles and promote more juvenile shoots.