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Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: July 28th, 2020, 9:05 pm
by Homer911
I had planted this Chinese Elm in the ground about a year ago and I remember that I didn't attend to the roots before it was planted.

I went to root prune it today and accidentally removed the whole root ball. Image

Roots pruned good n' proper!

I reduced the top and put some rooting powder on the root stumps. Covered them in sphagnum moss and put it in a pot.

Im not holding out much hope...its down to about 9°C overnight now.

Should I keep it indoors so it stays a little warmer? Place it in a plastic bag to increase humidity?

Am I clutching at straws?

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Re: Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: July 28th, 2020, 9:18 pm
by shibui
How does one 'accidentally' remove the whole root ball?
I dug some of the ones from my grow beds this afternoon. Cut the roots pretty hard but I am confident they will grow. It is a bit colder than 8C here at the moment and mine are just heeled into the soil until I can get round to potting them up in a few weeks.
No need to keep it indoors. You could prune the top a bit to remove some of the last leaves though I doubt they will be active now.
Mine have started to sprout new buds so starting to grow again even though it is still winter here.

Re: Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: July 29th, 2020, 10:10 am
by Keels
Arr the old classic chop chop ohhh shari to far :lol:

I take elm cuttings all the time and wack them into some soil and they grow like mad. You should be fine. Weather here gets down to minus at night and they never have any issues.

Good luck with it and keep us updated with how you go.

Re: Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: July 29th, 2020, 8:49 pm
by Homer911
shibui wrote: July 28th, 2020, 9:18 pm How does one 'accidentally' remove the whole root ball?
I dug some of the ones from my grow beds this afternoon. Cut the roots pretty hard but I am confident they will grow. It is a bit colder than 8C here at the moment and mine are just heeled into the soil until I can get round to potting them up in a few weeks.
No need to keep it indoors. You could prune the top a bit to remove some of the last leaves though I doubt they will be active now.
Mine have started to sprout new buds so starting to grow again even though it is still winter here.
Yeah, tell me about it!! :lost:

The rootball was a hell of a mess before I got to it, I swear governor! :whistle:

Keels wrote: July 29th, 2020, 10:10 am Arr the old classic chop chop ohhh shari to far :lol:

I take elm cuttings all the time and wack them into some soil and they grow like mad. You should be fine. Weather here gets down to minus at night and they never have any issues.

Good luck with it and keep us updated with how you go.
Oh, that's reassuring, thanks.

Here is the horrifying mass of evil that was banished from the tree. Looking at in now, I'm glad I removed it.
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Re: Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: July 29th, 2020, 9:01 pm
by shibui
A timely and really good example of why it is so much better to do root work before planting trees in the ground.
Small tangled roots only ever grow into larger more tangled roots after a couple of years in the ground as we can see here.
Fingers crossed that your elm can recover. They are very forgiving.

Re: Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: July 29th, 2020, 9:04 pm
by Keels
Homer911 wrote: July 29th, 2020, 8:49 pm
Here is the horrifying mass of evil that was banished from the tree. Looking at in now, I'm glad I removed it.

root_photo resize.jpg
Did you save that beautiful evil mass of roots? You could make something really interesting from elm root cuttings. I try and save as many as i can when i repot my elms. I actually have better elm trees from root cuttings then i have from seedlings.

Re: Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: July 30th, 2020, 7:52 am
by Homer911
Keels wrote:
Homer911 wrote: July 29th, 2020, 8:49 pm
Here is the horrifying mass of evil that was banished from the tree. Looking at in now, I'm glad I removed it.

root_photo resize.jpg
Did you save that beautiful evil mass of roots? You could make something really interesting from elm root cuttings. I try and save as many as i can when i repot my elms. I actually have better elm trees from root cuttings then i have from seedlings.
Yeah, kept it. Its already potted up. Not sure what will happen to it or if it will be worth keeping. I'll report back in 12 months....

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Re: Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: August 17th, 2020, 3:33 pm
by Homer911
She is powering on.....Image

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Re: Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: September 16th, 2020, 7:02 pm
by Homer911
6 weeks on.....

What was I worried about?

There were root emerging from the botton of the pot 3 weeks ago.Image

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Re: Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: September 16th, 2020, 7:11 pm
by Keels
Homer911 wrote: September 16th, 2020, 7:02 pm There were root emerging from the botton of the pot 3 weeks ago.
Fantastic, looks like the little tree is powering on. well done :tu:

Re: Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: September 16th, 2020, 7:40 pm
by MJL
Cool thread ... Chinese elm - the zombie tree - unkillable. And I reckon something will happen to that root ball too ... and you’ll have zombie babies ...


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Re: Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: September 16th, 2020, 7:49 pm
by Homer911
MJL wrote:Cool thread ... Chinese elm - the zombie tree - unkillable. And I reckon something will happen to that root ball too ... and you’ll have zombie babies ...


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Ha ha, I may need to call in some back up.

Zombie babies? It wouldn't surprise me in these strange new world conditions. Very fitting actually. ImageImage

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Re: Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: September 20th, 2020, 10:40 pm
by Homer911
The emergance of the deadly zombie baby! Image

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Re: Rootless Chinese Elm

Posted: September 21st, 2020, 6:02 am
by MJL



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