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This is a Quick conversion on a Monterey i got of my mate today . all up 30 seconds to lift , 5 minutes to pot up and 30 seconds to WHACK. Cheers

cool as mate. look forward to seeing this one down the track!
nice work!

Hi Jamie it will do for a trainer , should progress fairly rapid as the shoots a just visible .Cheers

i take it you are using the lower branches as sacrifice to thicken the trunk then you will choose either one of the branches or new growth for a leader then develop from there like the JBP threads show that have been on recently?

Hi Alpineart,

Have you got any that are further along than this? Say collected and styled last year or the year before?

I only say this as I have had a bit of trouble with working Radiata just after collecting it.

Cheers

Scott.

jamie111 wrote:i take it you are using the lower branches as sacrifice to thicken the trunk then you will choose either one of the branches or new growth for a leader then develop from there like the JBP threads show that have been on recently?

No Jamie the trunk is 60mm now ,it doesn't need pumpin . they are maitained to keep the sap flowing to speed up the tiny shoots then the top will be reduced and it will stand around 220mm high with a 60mm trunk .That tough enough , more like a sumo pine .No rules for this bloke if i like it it stays if not it goes . It already has a magic Naribri and it will be lifted about 1 inch higher in the pot to show the flare and roots after the first growing season .I deliberately keep them low as trainers due to the extreme 40-45 degree summer heat up here .

fair enough mate! i only ask because i am still learning about this stuff, i havent really done any collecting, so this sort of stuff is very interesting to me

Intresting for me too
I would have done this in an instant to a deciduous but thought this was not the go with pines

That pot is very intresting to me as well where did you get a terracotta bonsai pot like that?

Bretts wrote:Intresting for me too
I would have done this in an instant to a deciduous but thought this was not the go with pines

That pot is very intresting to me as well where did you get a terracotta bonsai pot like that?

same goes for me there too mate... how do you know its teracotta????

Bretts wrote:Intresting for me too
I would have done this in an instant to a deciduous but thought this was not the go with pines

That pot is very intresting to me as well where did you get a terracotta bonsai pot like that?

Bunnings, not sure if it is the same but i saw similar to that in Orange Bunnings.

Bretts wrote:Intresting for me too
I would have done this in an instant to a deciduous but thought this was not the go with pines

That pot is very intresting to me as well where did you get a terracotta bonsai pot like that?

Hi Bretts , purchased many years ago somewhere in Melb couldn't remember where .Cheers

jamie111 wrote:

Bretts wrote:Intresting for me too
I would have done this in an instant to a deciduous but thought this was not the go with pines

That pot is very intresting to me as well where did you get a terracotta bonsai pot like that?

same goes for me there too mate... how do you know its teracotta????

Terracotta /ceramic unglaced , yes/ no

Petra wrote:

Bretts wrote:Intresting for me too
I would have done this in an instant to a deciduous but thought this was not the go with pines

That pot is very intresting to me as well where did you get a terracotta bonsai pot like that?

Bunnings, not sure if it is the same but i saw similar to that in Orange Bunnings.

Sorry but bunnings wasn't around when this pot was purchased, it has had possibly 10 trees in it but i never sold the pot .Cheers

Scott Roxburgh wrote:Hi Alpineart,

Have you got any that are further along than this? Say collected and styled last year or the year before?

I only say this as I have had a bit of trouble with working Radiata just after collecting it.

Cheers

Scott.

Hi Scott i dont really have monty's as i found other species around the area more appealing .This is the first year i have gone all out to collect everything .If you note the rootmass on these trees is exceptional and if any lesser the will struggle and die .I dig trees that will survive not trees that might survive .If the roots are lesser than shown on your collected tree than they will struggle ,thats why i dig on rock or shale whenever possible and the whole erea up here is exactly that .

Pines need FEEDER ROOTS and MYCHROZEA WITHOUT EITHER THEY WILL SURELY DIE . As for chopping the tree back hard the roots will support the new growth because there is enough feeders and bacteria to support the trunk . Bleeding of the sap is the main issue here if the clay doesnt stop it i will drop a hot iron onto the cut to seal it .

I am sure there are exceptions to the rule and you may have some explination. But from my limited knowledge I thought root work one year and foliage work the next. Something about it needing the foilage other wise the tree stalls? I had always thought this a bit of a conundrum when collecting as I would think it benificial to remove foilage to balance what the tree needs to support.
Did you remove the top foliage to balance the health of the tree or purely to push it's development?