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[dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: March 16th, 2013, 7:57 am
by dansai
Species: Syzygium smithii (small leaved hedging form)
Height: 1200mm
Origin: Burbank Nursery
Cost: $40
Syzygium cv. 3.1.jpg
Syzygium cv. 3.2.jpg
This is the same tree as per the entry
[dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 2 (
viewtopic.php?f=148&t=14848&p=152905#p152905 ). This tree was original grown for hedging plants from the nursery I purchased it from. I set layers on it about 6 months ago and have good callusing but as yet no roots. I will reset the layers with some rooting hormone and hopefully i will get some roots soon so I can remove the layers and start work before winter.
This entry will be created from the lowest layer as shown in the second picture.
Re: [dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: March 24th, 2013, 8:07 am
by Neli
Are you submitting all 4?

Re: [dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: March 24th, 2013, 8:29 am
by dansai
Had thought about it.
Just the base and the lowest layer. The others I'll trim up then let them have there head.
Re: [dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: March 24th, 2013, 9:10 am
by Neli
That is a fantastic idea...good luck...but dont make it too nice....I want to win!

Re: [dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: March 24th, 2013, 9:41 am
by kcpoole
Dunno how you will go with them not being rooted already, but good luck as you have nothing to lose
Ken
Re: [dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: March 24th, 2013, 4:20 pm
by Neli
You can start on the bottom part...It is good material...so I am just making sure, You dont do anything too nice....

...I am a total newbie, but plan to have lots of fun.
Try to cut/roughen the edges of the graft where it meets the cambium...it might act as stimulus. Just a little bit not to destroy the points where the roots are supposed to emerge.
Maybe do it on just one...to see the difference. There are too many grafts so it is slowing it a bit. Plus winter coming is not helping...
But up to 10C the roots are still active, and continue to grow long after the foliage stops.
Re: [dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: April 1st, 2013, 7:15 pm
by dansai
Well I reset all the layers on both trees. Here is what one looked like when unwrapped.
Lilly Pilly Callus.jpg
I removed the lower part of the callus to try and promote roots at the top. I also painted in hormone gel.
Lilly Pilly Hormone.jpg
I reset the layers and gave this one a trim.

it will be ready to remove soon.
1 April 2013 Trim + Re layer.jpg
Re: [dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: June 27th, 2013, 8:56 pm
by dansai
Quick update
Sorry for the photo quality. Just had a new baby and in the process of moving my nursery.
Nothing much to report other than some growth. Looking forward to the warmer weather.
June 27 2013.jpg
Re: [dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: September 30th, 2013, 5:50 pm
by dansai
Withdrawn. No roots on the layer so i can't develop it as quickly as I'ld like. Will still update.
Re: [withdrawn][dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: September 30th, 2013, 8:36 pm
by Neli
Sorry to hear that. Check the post on my blog about sizigium airlayer, I did it after yours, did not use rooting powder, but planted it in a pot with sieved river sand. I dont have sphagnum moss here, so I have used river sand for over 25 years. Had good results so far. I separated it just before I went to Japan, and is doing very fine.
Re: [withdrawn][dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: October 3rd, 2013, 6:52 pm
by dansai
Thanks Neli for your interest.
I had considered using split pots and will if I don't get roots this time. I decided to redo with sphagnum because it was already there and I had a small window of time. I did however, soak in season as suggested by someone (I think Ray M) on this site. One thing that has come of this thought is some awesome flare at the base of each layer due to the callusing. So

Re: [withdrawn][dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: October 3rd, 2013, 7:42 pm
by Neli
Make sure you injure it again at the top lip of the cut. Just little bit all around.
Re: [withdrawn][dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: October 3rd, 2013, 7:50 pm
by dansai
I did do that. Like I did last time I reset the layers. There are lots of nodes in the calluses that may become roots. I have my

Re: [withdrawn][dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: October 3rd, 2013, 8:02 pm
by Neli
Good luck!
Re: [dansai] Syzygium smithii cv. 3
Posted: May 23rd, 2016, 5:53 am
by dansai
Well this one is still alive. After 3 attempts at the Air Layer and still having no roots but plenty of callus I removed them all, whacked them in potting mix and

to see what would happen. 2 of the layers survived, including this one, and 1 died sometime after when it dried out.
This one nearly carked it over summer from drying out, but has come back well.
LP Refine Shohin Comp 16-17 - 1.jpg
LP Refine Shohin Comp 16-17 - 2.jpg
Currently just under 300 mm
LP Refine Shohin Comp 16-17 - 3.jpg