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Scoria as a drainage layer at the bottom of Bonsai pots?

Posted: July 5th, 2015, 2:03 pm
by Reece
Good or bad idea?



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Re: Scoria as a drainage layer at the bottom of Bonsai pots?

Posted: July 5th, 2015, 2:44 pm
by Bougy Fan
Why waste it at the bottom - why not use it in your mix ? Unless it is something like 10mm and is too big to go into the mix ? I use it and diatomite in my totally inorganic mix with very good results.

Re: Scoria as a drainage layer at the bottom of Bonsai pots?

Posted: July 5th, 2015, 3:00 pm
by Gerard
Great idea for grow pots, not so good for display pots. I have been potting all day and the ones with a scoria drainage layer in a large orchid pot have produced great roots.

Re: Scoria as a drainage layer at the bottom of Bonsai pots?

Posted: July 5th, 2015, 3:03 pm
by kcpoole
I use it in my training pots to stop the diatomite mix coming out the holes

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Re: Scoria as a drainage layer at the bottom of Bonsai pots?

Posted: July 5th, 2015, 3:55 pm
by Reece
Yeah I'm talking about the 10mm. I knew you could use it for grow pots. Just wasn't sure about bonsai pots.

Why not such a good idea Gerard?

I'm talking about just one 10mm layer before I put the diatomite and Zeolite mix in....

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Re: Scoria as a drainage layer at the bottom of Bonsai pots?

Posted: July 5th, 2015, 4:38 pm
by kcpoole
Been proved that a drainage layer does nothing so better of just filling the entire pot wit u our preferred mix

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Re: Scoria as a drainage layer at the bottom of Bonsai pots?

Posted: July 5th, 2015, 4:47 pm
by mountainman
If it's 3-7ml, use through entire mix.If you use only a larger size above that and put on the bottom, all roots will go there,and because you start to get 'perched' water,you will get very thick roots.As in those mentioned with the orchids,which will then throw out your growing regime,as odd branches[related to the larger root's,]will grow more quickly than some of the other ones.It's all about balance.

Re: Scoria as a drainage layer at the bottom of Bonsai pots?

Posted: July 5th, 2015, 5:49 pm
by Gerard
I like shallow pots, sometimes a deeper pot for when a tree dries out too quickly in our hot summer. By the time a tree is ready for a display pot the need for a drainage layer has passed.

Re: Scoria as a drainage layer at the bottom of Bonsai pots?

Posted: July 5th, 2015, 6:22 pm
by Reece
Ok this all makes sense now....

Thanks everyone!

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Re: Scoria as a drainage layer at the bottom of Bonsai pots?

Posted: July 5th, 2015, 6:40 pm
by Andrew F
Reece wrote:Ok this all makes sense now....

Thanks everyone!

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Leong [bonsai south] sells a fairly small sized scoria if you are interested in trying it in a mix. The roots absolutely love it, its got great A.F.P.

Re: Scoria as a drainage layer at the bottom of Bonsai pots?

Posted: July 5th, 2015, 9:29 pm
by Reece
Andrew F wrote:
Reece wrote:Ok this all makes sense now....

Thanks everyone!

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Leong [bonsai south] sells a fairly small sized scoria if you are interested in trying it in a mix. The roots absolutely love it, its got great A.F.P.
Ok sounds good....

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Re: Scoria as a drainage layer at the bottom of Bonsai pots?

Posted: July 5th, 2015, 10:01 pm
by Elmar
A.F.P...?


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Re: Scoria as a drainage layer at the bottom of Bonsai pots?

Posted: July 5th, 2015, 10:17 pm
by Pearcy001
Elmar wrote:A.F.P...?


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Air-filled porosity I believe.
ie. How well the roots can breathe.