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One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: March 23rd, 2015, 9:14 pm
by boom64
Hi All, I was about to trim up the foliage of this Kunzea I have. However it has come time to do something more serious. It needs a major clean up.....
So the big questions, which branches to go, which side for the front ,maybe a change in planting angle.????????
Would really appreciate some opinions . :tu: Thanks John.

One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: March 23rd, 2015, 10:22 pm
by Elmar
boom64 wrote:Hi All, I was about to trim up the foliage of this Kunzea I have. However it has come time to do something more serious. It needs a major clean up.....
So the big questions, which branches to go, which side for the front ,maybe a change in planting angle.????????
Would really appreciate some opinions . :tu: Thanks John.
I really like the first picture because it shows the 'twirl' of the trunk down low. I'd try to change the top of the tee to come back over the base... First impressions for me is its unbalanced and leaning over too much.

But it's a lovely tree, wish I had your problem!


Cheers
Elmar

Re: One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: March 24th, 2015, 4:35 am
by kez
Great looking base and movement in the trunk,

I see what Elmar means by the tree feeling unbalanced at the moment, however rather than cut back, I suggest getting some wire onto it and giving it a style something similar to this
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I think you have the branching/foliage mass to achieve something in between these 2 trees, and I think it would make a beautifully balanced tree,

That...... or sell the tree to me ;) ........ seriously :shifty:

Kerrin

One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: March 24th, 2015, 7:41 am
by Elmar
kez wrote:Great looking base and movement in the trunk,

I see what Elmar means by the tree feeling unbalanced at the moment, however rather than cut back, I suggest getting some wire onto it and giving it a style something similar
Thank you Kerrin, that's what I meant.
kez wrote: That...... or sell the tree to me ;) ........ seriously :shifty:

Kerrin
How cheeky! Wish I would have thought of that ... Haha

BTW: love that first pot, Kerrin. One of yours or a picture you've collected?


Cheers
Elmar

Re: One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: March 24th, 2015, 8:40 am
by kez
No not mine,

First tree is by Harry Harrington, second is by Ryan Neil

Re: One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: March 24th, 2015, 11:54 am
by cre8ivbonsai
Pic 1 for the front - as it moves toward you and presents the lower trunk 'features' best. Not sure how brittle the upper trunk section is (?) but if you can get some movement into the straight section and at the same time bring the foliage mass back over the pot, running the branches lower. Thats my :2c: of ideas ... many possibilities though ...

Re: One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: March 24th, 2015, 1:53 pm
by kcpoole
Prefer the second pic as the front, The twist in the trunk is coming forward in that one and looks more welcoming to me.

the only branch I think i would remove is the second one as it comes off the first branch it looks like. Remove that will separate the foliage areas i think.

Ken

Re: One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: March 24th, 2015, 2:32 pm
by Pearcy001
Pic 2 as the front for me, the base seems a lot nicer with that bend in the trunk (although I could just be the lighting). Also as the branches run into the foliage they also seem to me to sit a lot nicer and less leggy in pic 2 due to the lower foliage (Seems leggy due to how far the tree sits out to the side.) Either way you've got yourself a great tree :) Are you able to bring the trunk back across a bit, or would the it be too brittle? This virt is just an idea as you said you were considering a major change (with a cleanup of the foliage).
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Cheers,
Pearcy.

Re: One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: March 24th, 2015, 4:15 pm
by Pearcy001
Just so you know I removed the lowest branch in the virt.

Re: One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: March 24th, 2015, 5:01 pm
by GavinG
What a lovely problem to have...

I'd go for front 1. I'm assuming there's no chance of getting a bend into the trunk up to the point where it separates. Can the smaller sub-trunks be bent at all? If so, maybe then wire and twist the low sub-trunk into something like the base of the trunk - seriously funky - and then see what you could do with the others to harmonise with it. Only once you've twisted and turned the sub-trunks as much as you can, would you decide that you can't make anything out of one of them, and maybe cut it. I can see it as windswept, so all battered but in the end, near horizontal. Please keep posting - I have a feeling you already know what you want to do with it.

Thanks for posting,

Gavin

Re: One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: March 24th, 2015, 8:05 pm
by Elmar
GavinG wrote:What a lovely problem to have...

... I can see it as windswept, so all battered but in the end, near horizontal. Please keep posting...

Thanks for posting,

Gavin
YES. What a brilliant idea! That could work easily!


Cheers
Elmar

Re: One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: March 24th, 2015, 8:25 pm
by boom64
Hi All, Thanks for all the great feedback some fantastic ideas. Appreciate the effort with the great photos Kerrin, and the digital work Pearcy. Gavin I am a real sucker for anything Funky :cool: . Certainly has changed my way of thinking. Got to love Aus Bonsai .Cheers John

Re: One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: July 5th, 2017, 9:13 pm
by boom64
Hi All,
Well two years latter and another re-design ,had some spare time and have given it a complete work over .Have not trimmed branches to length ,will cut back once it picks up steam. Starting to look what you originally suggested Kerrin.
Cheers John.

Re: One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: July 6th, 2017, 6:22 am
by Akhi
Have you considered cutting the top half?
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Re: One,Two or Three any ideas ?

Posted: July 6th, 2017, 8:52 am
by kcpoole
It will be interesting to see if the bottom branch survives.
I have not had any luck with Kunzea and having branches below the horizontal

Ken