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Trident root over rock progression

Posted: August 12th, 2014, 11:40 pm
by Josh
I got this trident 12 months ago. I decided to try a root over rock with it. This will become it's progression thread.
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I plan to plant this tree with several other rocks in the pot to form a kind of rocky hill/outcrop. But for now it's back onto the bench for another 12 months. Lots of feed and water to come.
I will update this thread with more progressions as they come although probably not for another 12 months :whistle:

Josh

Re: Trident root over rock progression

Posted: August 13th, 2014, 7:27 am
by GreenThumb
Thanks Josh this was really informative, great tree you are working with too.

Re: Trident root over rock progression

Posted: August 13th, 2014, 8:47 am
by loyskirineba
Good one Josh! I like where it’s going… :cool:

I appreciate how you documented your progression with photos and all :tu: and that goes to all the contributors here @ ausbonsai who does the same as well :hooray:
I’ve been meaning to do the same but I’m just not good in documenting my projects… maybe one of these days. :whistle:

Cheers,
Carlos

Re: Trident root over rock progression

Posted: August 13th, 2014, 9:00 am
by Isitangus
Nice progression. For me I don't think this tree needs the rock and would make a nice little informal upright on its own!

Re: Trident root over rock progression

Posted: August 13th, 2014, 10:59 am
by loyskirineba
Maybe it's due to the way the nebari developed that pushes Josh to come up with ROR :whistle: only he can answer of course ;)

Re: Trident root over rock progression

Posted: August 13th, 2014, 12:11 pm
by Boics
Yes.

I too wonder about the rock.

It is going to end up as a tree perched right on the tip of a rock?
Haven't seen too many of these naturally growing...

Just being constructive - I would think that a more accommodating rock might assist.

Certainly looks like a nice tree!

Re: Trident root over rock progression

Posted: August 14th, 2014, 9:58 pm
by Josh
loyskirineba wrote:Maybe it's due to the way the nebari developed that pushes Josh to come up with ROR :whistle: only he can answer of course ;)
Boics wrote:Yes.

I too wonder about the rock.

It is going to end up as a tree perched right on the tip of a rock?
Haven't seen too many of these naturally growing...

Just being constructive - I would think that a more accommodating rock might assist.

Certainly looks like a nice tree!
Isitangus wrote:Nice progression. For me I don't think this tree needs the rock and would make a nice little informal upright on its own!
Interesting comments guys :lost: When I pulled this tree out of the pot my first thought was "this is actually a strong tree in it's own right, maybe it doesn't need the rock". Then when I cleaned the soil away I thought " :palm: what was I thinking planting it on top of the rock".
I actually have 3 other rocks that I was going to create a rocky hill with so it wouldn't actually be sitting on top of the rock in it's final placing but looking at it now I think it would be better without the rock.
I decided to post pictures with it as ROR and not mention my thoughts to see what reaction/comments I got. Interestingly you guys picked my thoughts on this tree. Originally the tree had a fairly large hollow area under the trunk which created an issue with the nebari. But 12 months on and way better knowledge of trindents and developing nebari (thanks Shibui) I think this tree will come off the rock (if I can get it off, it was well and truly stuck) and develop it as a tree in it's own right.
Thanks for the comments, you guys were spot on. :tu:

Josh

Re: Trident root over rock progression

Posted: August 17th, 2014, 2:03 pm
by Bush bunny
Josh you only have two people to please, your tree and yourself. Have fun, and it looks great, I am about to experiment with a root over rock, but with a young maple. I mean very young.

Cheers

Pat.

Re: Trident root over rock progression

Posted: July 11th, 2015, 9:12 am
by Josh
So after another season of growing in a deep pot this tree put on some serious root growth. I decided to keep it on the rock. I'm happy with where it's at for the moment.
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Now to work on the branching.
Josh

Re: Trident root over rock progression

Posted: July 11th, 2015, 10:19 am
by EdwardH
Hi Josh, if you are going to stick with the ROR I would plant it in a deep pot again and progressively reveal the roots one or two cm per year. This will cause the roots to thicken more quickly so that in a few years you get a better result. As it is, the newer roots look like they have been glued onto the end of the older, thicker roots.