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best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: July 30th, 2014, 8:31 pm
by Keels
Hi guys,

Ive been living in canberra for two years now and my bonsai trees get hammered during winter. Im looking at buying a large greenhouse from bunnings just to provide the protection from the frost, wind etc

What im thinking of is maybe building something? Anyone have any ideas or advise on what they do?

Thanks

Re: best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: July 30th, 2014, 9:52 pm
by deejay335
For what it's worth - my bonsais all live on my back deck under cover so never get frost on them. A bit of juggling around when it rains and I have to make super sure I water even during winter, but they seem to like it and have survived there for over 12 years.

Re: best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 5:28 am
by Shannon
Im in the same boat Keel, I want to bring some if my big figs down from Queensland and need to sort out a heated frost free area that won't break the bank or ruin my marriage (ha).
I purchased a cheaper plastic hot house from eBay 4m x2m and it lasted a total of two weeks before the cover was shredded by the Canberra winds.

Looking into building my own at the moment. If you go to the Canberra Society meeting on the weekend I should be there, say g'day and we'll have a chat.

Regards
Shannon

Re: best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 7:42 am
by Grant Bowie
Except for the semi tropical trees I would not be looking for winter protection.

The good thing about Canberra is the weather; four seasons and all that.

The harsh winter ensures very few pests survive over winter and it makes it easier for applications of Lime Sulphur etc.

Growing trees in a glass house is not easy. You need to ensure good air movement to avoid mildews, pest build up and be careful of disease going rampant.

Grant

Re: best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 8:56 am
by Matthew
Im with Grant. Only my figs spend the winter months in the Hothouse . All other species including premma japonica (aka stinky maple ) that i believe is semi tropical spend all winter with temps 0-5 not uncommon. Like grant said the frost is the best thing for killing bugs and having trees out in the open with air movement helps prevent fungal problems/disease .With the rain this winter here i havent watered anything out in the open since May

Re: best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 9:01 am
by Keels
I do have trees that are not really suited to the weather in canberra then again im a little in experienced in identifying whats actually happening with my trees. I think I actually might look at giving away my figs as ive struggled to keep them going in this weather.

Possibly looking at building something in the corner of my yard this weekend but ill post plans before I attempt

Thanks guys

Re: best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 1:29 pm
by cre8ivbonsai
Maybe even pop up to the National Collection at the Arboretum, they've got a very nice setup - it costed $$ but at least you could see what principles are at play, and hopefully chat to Shannon, Leigh or others to explain why it works, might help before you launch into your build.

Re: best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 5:07 pm
by Grant Bowie
Keels wrote:I do have trees that are not really suited to the weather in canberra then again im a little in experienced in identifying whats actually happening with my trees. I think I actually might look at giving away my figs as ive struggled to keep them going in this weather.

Possibly looking at building something in the corner of my yard this weekend but ill post plans before I attempt

Thanks guys
I grow my figs inside the house in an unheated room for 6 months of the year. Put them outside in October and defoliate to force them to put out new growth.

The growing season for Figs in the ACT is as little as 6 to 8 weeks(January and Feb).

Grant

Re: best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 7:02 pm
by Sasha P
I had an empty space behind the garage, so I put up a timber pergola type thing, some shade cloth and then underneath for the tropical type sticks in pots I bought some little plastic green house things, have weight them down with bricks and blocks and so far they have not moved with any windy days we have had in Canberra so far. Not the best looking set up but it is hidden by the garage from the back of the house and gets the afternoon sun.

Re: best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 8:49 pm
by GavinG
My cheap-and-nasty solution has been to keep the figs and a lillipilly on the patio (= heat sink) and cover them with a sheet of builder's foil, weighted down, each night. Bit of a pain, but it's easy and it works. A couple of top leaves burnt in the -8C last year, that's all.

Grant has previously said that his figs power on through winter, which mine certainly don't.

Gavin

Re: best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 9:09 pm
by Keels
sushi900 wrote:I had an empty space behind the garage, so I put up a timber pergola type thing, some shade cloth and then underneath for the tropical type sticks in pots I bought some little plastic green house things, have weight them down with bricks and blocks and so far they have not moved with any windy days we have had in Canberra so far. Not the best looking set up but it is hidden by the garage from the back of the house and gets the afternoon sun.

nice setup there. that's what im thinking of doing now. possibility of being a little more mobile as im only renting my house but ill head down to the society meeting this weekend and say hi to Shannon and get his ideas

Re: best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 9:11 pm
by Keels
Grant Bowie wrote:
Keels wrote:I do have trees that are not really suited to the weather in canberra then again im a little in experienced in identifying whats actually happening with my trees. I think I actually might look at giving away my figs as ive struggled to keep them going in this weather.

Possibly looking at building something in the corner of my yard this weekend but ill post plans before I attempt

Thanks guys
I grow my figs inside the house in an unheated room for 6 months of the year. Put them outside in October and defoliate to force them to put out new growth.

The growing season for Figs in the ACT is as little as 6 to 8 weeks(January and Feb).

Grant

so grant do you have banyan figs? thats the only type that struggles my other port jackson figs are fine normally, two weeks ago i go home late from work and all the leaves had burnt from the frost. should recover but itll be tough in winter for it now.

Re: best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 10:38 pm
by Sno
If you were living in the snowies tonight the only place I would suggest is a bunker . Just got back from my neighbours house which literally imploded .

Re: best place to store my trees in winter

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 9:14 am
by Grant Bowie
Keels wrote:
Grant Bowie wrote:
Keels wrote:I do have trees that are not really suited to the weather in canberra then again im a little in experienced in identifying whats actually happening with my trees. I think I actually might look at giving away my figs as ive struggled to keep them going in this weather.

Possibly looking at building something in the corner of my yard this weekend but ill post plans before I attempt

Thanks guys
I grow my figs inside the house in an unheated room for 6 months of the year. Put them outside in October and defoliate to force them to put out new growth.

The growing season for Figs in the ACT is as little as 6 to 8 weeks(January and Feb).

Grant

so grant do you have banyan figs? thats the only type that struggles my other port jackson figs are fine normally, two weeks ago i go home late from work and all the leaves had burnt from the frost. should recover but itll be tough in winter for it now.
Not Banyan. I do grow Port Jackson and Willow Leaf fig; and clerodendron.

If you do work out a shelter of some sort you may be able to grow bougainvillea and the more exotic figs on a heat mat. Shannon has been looking into it, so certainly do get his advice.

grant