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New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: April 26th, 2014, 9:54 pm
by Josh
On my visit to bonsaisensation, I picked up this trident maple. Got the base for something very nice. Got a bit of growing and development but I like the start it has.
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Looking forward to working on this one.
Josh
Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: April 27th, 2014, 3:23 am
by lackhand
Looks like a great start, Josh. I look forward to seeing where this goes. I've seen a lot of nice stuff coming from Bonsai Sensation, sure wish I could drop in!

Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: April 27th, 2014, 8:23 am
by bamboos
Hi Josh
Looks like a terrific base

-- a great start
Steve
Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: April 27th, 2014, 9:20 am
by kcpoole
I assume you are going to chop the top and make it around the trunk?
A nice compact tree will be the result there I reckon.
Ken
Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: April 27th, 2014, 9:59 am
by kez
Great score Josh, love the base and nebari
I picked up a Japanese maple on Friday from a nursery here that is similar in design and in a similar stage of development, I'm curious as to whether you plan on feeding and letting it grow before selecting branches or if you will select branches and then work on development from there?
I'm in 2 minds with mine
Again great score
Kez
Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: April 27th, 2014, 10:23 am
by Josh
lackhand wrote:Looks like a great start, Josh. I look forward to seeing where this goes. I've seen a lot of nice stuff coming from Bonsai Sensation, sure wish I could drop in!

Tien has some great stock, and I like the fact he takes the time to walk around with you and show you what he has.
bamboos wrote:Hi Josh
Looks like a terrific base

-- a great start
Steve
Hi Steve, apparently the roots continue going out under the soil so am itching to bare root in winter and see what's under there.
kcpoole wrote:I assume you are going to chop the top and make it around the trunk?
A nice compact tree will be the result there I reckon.
Ken
Hi Ken, I'll loose the small branch on the bottom left hand side in the last photo to maintain the curve in the trunk. I'll let the top grow for a little the thicken the leader and then reduce. Yes I'm planning on a shorter tree
kez wrote:Great score Josh, love the base and nebari
I picked up a Japanese maple on Friday from a nursery here that is similar in design and in a similar stage of development, I'm curious as to whether you plan on feeding and letting it grow before selecting branches or if you will select branches and then work on development from there?
I'm in 2 minds with mine
Again great score
Kez
Hi Kez, I had a good discussion on growing this tree. I will select branches and begin to wire into place, I need to cut some back and get new buds to wire down as some branches are to thick to bend and get the right angle. I will let each branch grow to thicken the branch then chop and regrow, same as you do the trunk to get size and taper. I don't want a tree with nice fine twigging right back to the trunk. Because of the thick base I want to get the branching in proportion.
Thanks for the comments. Looking forward to working with this one.
Josh
Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: April 27th, 2014, 10:53 am
by kez
Good stuff josh,
When will you begin branch selection/pruning?
Kez
Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: April 28th, 2014, 3:45 pm
by Neli
Nice tree. Try and root some cuttings in spring, You might need them for root grfts to build even better nebari.
Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: April 28th, 2014, 8:53 pm
by Bonsaifan
Nice tree. Tien is great to deal with and ive walked away with more trees than planned..great stock at good prices! Hmm maybe ill visit him again sortly for a look around

Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: April 28th, 2014, 10:38 pm
by Josh
kez wrote:Good stuff josh,
When will you begin branch selection/pruning?
Kez
Good question, I will start to choose the branches I want and wire early to get downward movement and a nice angle off the trunk. The branches that are thick will get pruned back and the smaller ones will be let go for a while to thicken.
Neli wrote:Nice tree. Try and root some cuttings in spring, You might need them for root grfts to build even better nebari.
Yes I did discuss with Tien options for rectifying roots (in relation to another tree) but this tree may need some work later on. Apparently the roots continue going outward under the soil so will bare root in winter and have a look. Good idea on the cutting Neli, hadn't thought of that.
Bonsaifan wrote:Nice tree. Tien is great to deal with and ive walked away with more trees than planned..great stock at good prices! Hmm maybe ill visit him again sortly for a look around

The only disappointment I have with going to bonsaisensation is I don't have enough cash in my pocket.
Cheers
Josh
Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: April 29th, 2014, 6:18 am
by Scott Roxburgh
A great piece of stock, with a number of trunk line options.
The one that spoke to me was that one that avoided the scar, but I also saw two others that I like.
This would be my 5 year plan as a start. Then as you get more ramification, you can aim for a broader canopy.
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That's the main branches anyway, hopefully when you bare root, the roots are conducive to the styling.
I think 3 buds/branches are already there, but a number of them will need to be grafted (I like thread) or you might get lucky

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You lose a little of the movement, but it shouldn't grow and become an issue with a shohin.
Definitely keep this one updated.
Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: April 29th, 2014, 9:58 pm
by Josh
Scott Roxburgh wrote:A great piece of stock, with a number of trunk line options.
The one that spoke to me was that one that avoided the scar, but I also saw two others that I like.
This would be my 5 year plan as a start. Then as you get more ramification, you can aim for a broader canopy.
Josh's Trident virt.jpg
That's the main branches anyway, hopefully when you bare root, the roots are conducive to the styling.
I think 3 buds/branches are already there, but a number of them will need to be grafted (I like thread) or you might get lucky

.
You lose a little of the movement, but it shouldn't grow and become an issue with a shohin.
Definitely keep this one updated.
Thanks for the virt Scott, That's a great direction for the tree. My plan is to bare root in winter and have a look at the nebari and see what hits me. The scare is already beginning to heal over, I will curve it out a little to create a hollow but well on it's way already. I don't see the scar being an issue in the future. I like the movement in the trunk and as you say you do loose some of it from the side you picked but I don't think that is a real issue either Mmmmmm

Now you got me thinking.....
I will definitely keep this updated.
Thanks
Josh
Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: May 15th, 2014, 3:55 pm
by Josh
Well I found a tree I think this stump would suit. Hope this is ok..all credit and rights go to Walter Pall. I found this on the net and thought it would suit my tree perfectly.
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What do people think.
Josh
Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: May 15th, 2014, 4:10 pm
by Ray M
Josh wrote:Well I found a tree I think this stump would suit. Hope this is ok..all credit and rights go to Walter Pall. I found this on the net and thought it would suit my tree perfectly.
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What do people think.
Josh
Hi Josh,
This will take a number of seasons to get this ramification. If you can achieve this you would have a great little tree.
Regards Ray
Re: New Trident Maple from bonsaisensation
Posted: May 15th, 2014, 5:09 pm
by bonborn
Love the second tree better. Very elegant.