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Importing

Posted: June 19th, 2013, 12:42 am
by Haydenmc
Help,
Can anybody decipher the current rules?
Is it fees able to bring in acer from Japan? Pinus I can see is a no no.
Should I just give up?

Thanks

H

Re: Importing

Posted: June 19th, 2013, 12:05 pm
by MoGanic
As far as I know it's ridiculously expensive to bring in any plants and they'd be dead after all the quarantine anyway. (most likely dead).

-Mo

Re: Importing

Posted: June 19th, 2013, 12:32 pm
by maple
You would only be considering mature trees that are reasonably expensive to start with so the costs might not be so much more. If you are travelling you could add as excess baggage or if you Airfreight it will cost a couple of hundred depending on weight and size. The trees need a certificate before shipping and must be soil free. Maples are quarantined for 3 months in an AQIS Nursery. Their potting costs and table space rent is expensive. Maples are held so a full set of leaves are produced.
Check the AQIS site for details. If you take it further I have a Company in Yokohama that takes care of everything at a cost.
Is it worth it? Only the individual can answer that. If you find a tree that is not available in Australia because of age, size or design and you have the cash, then why not.
Maples will have no problem coming through the fumigation process if they are healthy. I have not heard of 1 tree that has died.
Remember to get the AQIS permit before travelling and ensure they know what size trees you are bringing back.

Re: Importing

Posted: June 20th, 2013, 6:14 pm
by Meagi
Get thread "H"and fabulous information maple .
Let us know what you decide Hayden .
Look forward to seeing how this comes out .
Japan has some very lovely trees

Re: Importing

Posted: June 21st, 2013, 12:15 am
by Haydenmc
Interesting
I've had varied responses from a few people via pm also.
The main reason I asked was that I have a friend who I living in Tokyo now and travelling back to melbourne pretty reglarily. Seems like it is time to start saving the pennies and start hoping the rules don't change between now and then.
Is there anybody who has experience in importing?
I don't quite understand how a tree goes crossing equator into opposite seasons - a problem that's not going to bother me for the near future, if I'm bringing something in it might as well be really nice.
Nice =$$$$$$
Unless anybody has some acer palmatum they want to part with and save me the trouble?

Cheers

Importing

Posted: June 21st, 2013, 5:44 pm
by Davehsydney
Hi Maple

I just read your comment on tree importing and found it very helpful. I'm currently in the process of investigating the importation of a juniper from Japan.

Any advice or help you could provide me with would be most appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

David.

Re: Importing

Posted: June 21st, 2013, 6:03 pm
by Jow
Juniper has to arrive bare rooted and then undergo bare rooted fumigation, followed by up to 2 years in quarentine (if it survived the bare rooting/ fumigation.

I would be interested to see if you got any to survive.

AQIS has a database called ICON that lists species and the conditions required to get them in.

http://www.aqis.gov.au/icon/asp/ex_alertscontent.asp

Juniper

http://www.aqis.gov.au/icon32/asp/ex_ca ... essionID=0

Re: Importing

Posted: June 21st, 2013, 8:50 pm
by maple
[quote="Jow"]Juniper has to arrive bare rooted and then undergo bare rooted fumigation, followed by up to 2 years in quarentine (if it survived the bare rooting/ fumigation.

I would be interested to see if you got any to survive.

AQIS has a database called ICON that lists species and the conditions required to get them in.

David, Jow has good advice there. Follow up that link. I have seen 3x JBP go through the import process perfectly but have no experience with Junipers. Check the bench space rates as well over 2 years.
I used Yokohama Plant Company to handle what I brought in. They will organise collection from the Nursery to Australia so there's nothing to do but pay. If you go further, I can dig out their contact details for you.
Good Luck!

Re: Importing

Posted: June 21st, 2013, 9:15 pm
by Neli
Can You dig those details up for me please. I would like to buy from an on line auction, but they send to Japan only.I dont have any quarantine here, and I have seen some fantastic azaleas with big trunks go for Y20000.

Importing

Posted: June 21st, 2013, 9:21 pm
by Davehsydney
Sounds quite futile. Forget the money, I would be upset about a tree that old being treated like that and then probably dying.

I wonder if anyone has any big old twisted junipers in Australia who would be willing to sell :)

Importing

Posted: June 21st, 2013, 9:22 pm
by Davehsydney
Where are you Neli?

Re: Importing

Posted: June 21st, 2013, 11:56 pm
by Neli
I am in Zambia Africa. I went last year to japan. and that is how I joined this thread. Prebonsai there are fantastic and not expensive...You can get a nice flowering cherry for USD10. I have pictures with the prices, that I took. for USD30 you can get a nice fat sumo trunk deciduous.

Re: Importing

Posted: June 23rd, 2013, 2:29 pm
by Brian
I was involved with importing bonsai from Japan about 20 years ago. There are strict rules and many varieties are banned. Pines and junipers are extremely difficult with a 2 year quarantine required. Maples and especially Tridents are the most successful at surviving the gassing process. We imported a beautiful 100 year old azalea with a big trunk but it eventually perished which was really tragic.

Re: Importing

Posted: June 24th, 2013, 12:39 pm
by maple
Neli wrote:Can You dig those details up for me please. I would like to buy from an on line auction, but they send to Japan only.I dont have any quarantine here, and I have seen some fantastic azaleas with big trunks go for Y20000.
Yokohama Plant Company
15 Karasawa, Minami-Ku
Yokohama
ph 1115 81 0452 627413
fax 1115 81 0452 617495

We need to have our trees fumigated using Methyl Bromide that Azaleas have a poor record with. You're lucky you dont have to go through it.
Good Luck.

Re: Importing

Posted: June 24th, 2013, 4:02 pm
by Neli
Thanks! Do they have a email address? Do they know English...In Japan very few people know English. I am going to call them today.
I called him and he spoke a little bit of English. He said they dont do it anymore.