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Root over rock

Posted: February 23rd, 2013, 3:46 pm
by Bretts
I love the root over rock style but with all the trouble I have had with Tridents I haven't had much luck yet. I do have a couple of projects that are going ok. I don't think Chinese elm works that good for root over rock so I was surprised at this one when I dug it up. My mate Pol reckons that now it has been unwrapped the roots will no longer stay flattened onto the rock. Not sure but maybe they have rounded out again already?
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Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 23rd, 2013, 3:56 pm
by Meagi
Hi Brett
I'm not a fan of root over rock ...but must say you've done an excellent job on this guy !
Love the pot mate great craftsmanship ... I seen another one of your pots at a mates place I thought it was a very professional job .
Cheers

Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 23rd, 2013, 7:17 pm
by Bretts
I'm not a fan of root over rock
Whaaaaaat? I thought everyone loved root over rock.
Glad you like anyway. Oh and I would love to see another of my pots with a tree in it :tu:
It would be great if others had root over rock to show, Post away here if you like :whistle: :whistle:

Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 23rd, 2013, 9:06 pm
by Sno
G'day Brett's nice ror . I have to say your avatars deserve a thread of there own .Each one gives me a chuckle . Thank you. My ror's are still underground but it would be great to see some more.

Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 23rd, 2013, 9:18 pm
by Matthew
Brett
I shoulg get you to make a few pots for some of my ROR I like your style :) the elms not bad has good roots fairly even thickness, ill get some pics of s few of mine tomorrow

Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 23rd, 2013, 10:23 pm
by kcpoole
Nice tree and Pot brett :yes:

Have not any worth posting, but have 2 in progress

Ken

Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 24th, 2013, 10:33 am
by witchstreet
Very nice ror, Bretts. What a beautiful pot! Well done!

Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 24th, 2013, 12:16 pm
by Stewart_Toowoomba
kcpoole wrote:Nice tree and Pot brett :yes:

Have not any worth posting, but have 2 in progress

Ken
surely you'd have something that is worthy of a photo Ken?

:whistle:

Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 24th, 2013, 1:22 pm
by Bretts
Sno wrote:GG'day Brett's nice ror . I have to say your avatars deserve a thread of there own .Each one gives me a chuckle . Thank you. My ror's are still underground but it would be great to see some more.
Hey Sno, I will snap a pic of a couple of tridents this arvo, Looks like we will get to see some more as well. I know Mathew has at least a couple of good ones. I am glad you are laughing with me on the avatars :D

Hey Mathew, As Winter sets in maybe I will start to make a few more pots, my skills don't really equate to doing commissioned pots yet :palm: Looking forward to seeing your ROR I remember a couple of nice ones.


Thanks WhitchStreet n' Ken. I will post some "in the making" ROR as well.

Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 24th, 2013, 4:08 pm
by Bretts
I dug these two out of the ground in spring. I was thinking I should start to control the growth a little so put them in a pot but it seems it is controlled too much and I think I will try a bigger pot next season as there is still a long way to go.
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I like the second one better and think it should work out well. Tilting the first may be the go it has a large scar and will need alot of growth and it does not seem to be coping well with the fungus. It might even end up in the bin :palm:
One day I will create a great ROR unless it kills me :P
That's all I got except for sticks comming out of the ground in the grow patch so hope some others can post some up for our viewing pleasure. :tu:

Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 24th, 2013, 6:30 pm
by siddhar
It may not be the Elms fault in this instance! :o :lol:

This is just an observation and my opinion. BUT if you or I, or whoever were trying a ROR with an Elm, and we used a more porous rock from the beginning, could we achieve a more pleasing result?

The rock used in this instance is very smooth and obviously this elm is having trouble fusing to it. A more porous material/and or rock would definitely encourage a closer marriage between Elm and host I believe.

Just a thought ;)

Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 24th, 2013, 7:08 pm
by Watto
Currently at the national collection in Canberra there is a Chinese Elm RoR that is not too bad - OK so that's an understatement.

Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 24th, 2013, 8:15 pm
by Bretts
Glad you brought that one up Watto, I was meaning to dig up the pic of that one. It definitely is an outstanding example. I love the drama and it will look superb after it gets a good work over.
Yet even though the main trunk is wedged in dam well and the roots wrap around very good you can see the roots stay round and don't flatten out on the rock like the trident and fig.

Hey Siddhar, I don't think it is a matter of soaking in or being able to grasp the rock as a climbing vine might but it is about the way the roots grow. Any rock that the elm could actually grow into would not last very long.

I could be wrong but I can't remember seeing an elm tree root over rock that has "melted" over the rock the way a trident maple does.

What other species work well for ROR there must be more besides maple and fig. I am thinking Grewia for some reason :?: I think Azalea are also ok but I can't grow them either :palm:

Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 25th, 2013, 10:16 am
by Andrew F
Great work Brett. I too, was under the impression everyone loves ROR.

How many growing seasons did it take to achieve that level of root coverage?

Reason I ask, I have a few hardwood elm cuttings with roots wrapped around a few bits of yingshi rock and im keen to un earth them next spring but if i can avoid it and let them grow unabated i will.

Re: Root over rock

Posted: February 25th, 2013, 10:40 am
by bodhidharma
Nice Bretts and i also understand what you mean when you say "the roots dont flatten out". I was hoping to achieve that with my C.elm but was a little disappointed that i didnt achieve that. They adhere well but the flattening out process is spectacular. The figs just swallow the rock eventually.