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No cookie cutter bonsai

Posted: January 30th, 2013, 1:53 pm
by LLK
Hello all,
I had the good luck to stumble across an excellent article by Joe Morgan-Payler from Victoria, titled "Cookie cutter Jaoanese bonsai". You'll find it in the online bonsai magazine called "ofBonsai Magazine". You don't have to register to read it.
http://ofbonsai.org/the-last-page/edito ... ese-bonsai
Quite out of the ordinary, yet entirely acceptable -- better than that, I mean very valuable trees! :hooray:

If you read this, thank you very much, Joe M-P and online magazine.

Lisa :worship:

No cookie cutter bonsai

Posted: January 30th, 2013, 2:49 pm
by Jasonb
Great article Lisa, and some spectacular shaped trees there too!!!

Nice find, I'll be surfing that sight tonight I think.

Regards, Jason.

Re: No cookie cutter bonsai

Posted: January 30th, 2013, 2:54 pm
by Andrew F
Thanks for the link, although i believe the art lies in planning and designing a traditional tree, i think everyones collection should have some of these expressive styled trees.

Re: No cookie cutter bonsai

Posted: January 30th, 2013, 8:50 pm
by shibui
Thanks for drawing attention to that article Lisa.
I'm sure Joe will see this thread. He is a regular Ausbonsai contributor.

Many other well written and thought out posts on his blogs too.
http://bonsai-japan.com/
http://nichigobonsai.com/

Re: No cookie cutter bonsai

Posted: January 31st, 2013, 6:10 am
by LLK
Glad people appreciate that article.
i believe the art lies in planning and designing a traditional tree, i think everyones collection should have some of these expressive styled trees.
Andrew F: Do you mean everyone should strive in the first place to grow cookie cutter style trees, with a few fantasy ones to add spice to one's collection? ;) ;) ;)

Thanks, shibui, for the info! Now I know which Jow this Joe is, I mean which Joe Jow is. I already had an inkling, since I've been perusing his sites a few times. Great contributions! :clap: :clap: :clap:
Shibui, hope to see you Sat. at the grand Opening of the NBPCA! And maybe Joe too?

Lisa

Re: No cookie cutter bonsai

Posted: January 31st, 2013, 8:28 am
by Jow
LLK wrote:Glad people appreciate that article.
i believe the art lies in planning and designing a traditional tree, i think everyones collection should have some of these expressive styled trees.
Andrew F: Do you mean everyone should strive in the first place to grow cookie cutter style trees, with a few fantasy ones to add spice to one's collection? ;) ;) ;)

Thanks, shibui, for the info! Now I know which Jow this Joe is, I mean which Joe Jow is. I already had an inkling, since I've been perusing his sites a few times. Great contributions! :clap: :clap: :clap:
Shibui, hope to see you Sat. at the grand Opening of the NBPCA! And maybe Joe too?

Lisa
Hi Lisa, Glad you enjoyed my ramblings.... 'Cookie Cutter' is thrown around a lot yet i think its a bit of an over applied term.

I will be at the opening Saturday

Joe

Re: No cookie cutter bonsai

Posted: January 31st, 2013, 9:03 am
by cre8ivbonsai
Thanks for a good read Joe,

... that term also gets bandied around our industry, usually by clients who are both ignorant and arrogant and eventually they serve up crap (that they love :lost: ) that is technically and aesthetically worse (supposedly by someone who meant to be 'better' - or charges more at least :tounge: :tounge: :tounge: :tounge: ). As you can tell it gets me fired up as well!

And yes I too love bonsai that are technically skillful yet creatively different :tu:

Thanks,
Ryan

Re: No cookie cutter bonsai

Posted: January 31st, 2013, 11:14 am
by LLK
'Cookie Cutter' is thrown around a lot yet i think its a bit of an over applied term.
Jow: I agree, and when used to critique someone's trees it is downright insulting. (BTW, I hope that Andrew F realised I was kidding! See winking smilies.) The term got popular about 10 yrs ago, from what I remember, when there was a huge wave among Western bonsai enthousiasts in favour of "natural" and "naturalistic" styling vs "traditional, classical" and "conservative", with caustic disputes on the IBC, pages and pages long. Walter Pall was the great defender of the first lot of characteristics, though his principles were and often still are misunderstood.

Hope to meet you somewhere in the crowd on Sat. If you see someone tallish, old and ugly, if it isn't my double, it's me.

Lisa :D