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Cedrus Libani
Posted: December 17th, 2012, 8:03 pm
by MoGanic
Hi all,
This one is in need of a bit of a wiring and possibly a repot since it hasn't had one in two or three years! But its by far my favorite tree

. (That is until my Japanese maple develops some more hehe).
I don't know about the first branch inside the curve, I like everything it does for the tree except the junction with the trunk!
Will post better pics soon! (Its not as small as it looks btw.. also I hate the current pot. Would love it in a cream colored shallow pot!)

Re: Cedrus Libani
Posted: December 17th, 2012, 8:17 pm
by squizzy
nice tree mo,
I was just looking at the branches. I think if the first right branch goes the first left would have to come off as well to to keep it balanced, but that would change the whole style of the tree, so I say keep them both. Thats just my opinion though.
Squizz
Re: Cedrus Libani
Posted: December 17th, 2012, 8:20 pm
by Guy
is the lowest branch allowed to be a back branch?
Re: Cedrus Libani
Posted: December 17th, 2012, 8:30 pm
by MoGanic
Some better pics!

Back

Front
Told you its big! That's a tiger! :-p
Cheers squizz, my thoughts exactly.
The lowest branch is actually not a back branch though its difficult to see in the photos it comes forward

Re: Cedrus Libani
Posted: December 17th, 2012, 9:03 pm
by time8theuniverse
Given the diameter of the first branch I would take it off. Then shorten the next branch by bending and cutting. Then bring the branch above the curve down into the space. But thats

worth.
That's clearly a giant snow leopard.

pot wise? Smaller, maybe.
Re: Cedrus Libani
Posted: December 17th, 2012, 10:38 pm
by Josh
Hope you don't mind, I had a play with it. Sometimes it helps to see what it would look like with the branch removed before you actually remove it.
reqy2uja 2.jpg
reqy2uja.jpg
Personally I don't mind the right branch, just my
Josh
Re: Cedrus Libani
Posted: December 18th, 2012, 7:54 am
by MoGanic
kidsandall wrote:Hope you don't mind, I had a play with it. Sometimes it helps to see what it would look like with the branch removed before you actually remove it.
reqy2uja 2.jpg
reqy2uja.jpg
Personally I don't mind the right branch, just my
Josh
I think the virts cleared this up for me a fair bit. Thanks mate, much appreciated. Won't be removing any branches just yet

. Looking forward to filling out those pads at the moment though! =D hehe
time8theuniverse wrote:Given the diameter of the first branch I would take it off. Then shorten the next branch by bending and cutting. Then bring the branch above the curve down into the space. But thats

worth.
That's clearly a giant snow leopard.

pot wise? Smaller, maybe.
Thanks for your advice mate, will definitely consider over the next couple years.
"That's clearly a giant snow leopard."

Re: Cedrus Libani
Posted: December 18th, 2012, 3:20 pm
by Boics
Once again Mo.
Hope you don't mind..
I saw a nice little Literati in there perhaps?
In particular with a slightly smaller pot.
Great little tree and as this thread demonstrates some cool options to peruse.
Keep us posted on where it goes.
Regards,
Re: Cedrus Libani
Posted: December 18th, 2012, 5:24 pm
by Anth
I like what Boics has done but I think the bend is to wide and long I would try to stretch the bend out a little and change the planting angle .
Or remove the first branch and try to compress the tree bringing the top down to fill the gap a bit and shorten the left branch.
That's just my vision .
Re: Cedrus Libani
Posted: December 19th, 2012, 6:11 pm
by time8theuniverse
With a couple of years of growth through the first branch will only get more diameter and the your choice will be more obvious with the time to figure out the your tree.
Same goes for the giant snow leopard growing diameter too.

Re: Cedrus Libani
Posted: December 19th, 2012, 7:14 pm
by MoGanic
Boics wrote:Once again Mo.
Hope you don't mind..
I saw a nice little Literati in there perhaps?
In particular with a slightly smaller pot.
Great little tree and as this thread demonstrates some cool options to peruse.
Keep us posted on where it goes.
Regards,
Mate I saw this too, but I'm definitely not prepared to take that much off just yet. Was a definite stand out but I think the current design is better for now

.
time8theuniverse wrote:With a couple of years of growth through the first branch will only get more diameter and the your choice will be more obvious with the time to figure out the your tree.
Same goes for the giant snow leopard growing diameter too.

Mate that snow leopard is a mean machine!
I'll definitely let it develop some more =].
: Cedrus Libani
Posted: January 25th, 2013, 4:21 pm
by Mokurai
Hi,
Nice looking Cedrus Libani. How old is it? How tall is it?

I would suggest you leave those two bottom branches where they are .... they look good and the second branch appears to be behind the tree... always need to be on the outside of a bend eh. However, might I suggest taking all the greenery off each branch from the trunk, out two thirds of each branch. This will make it look more of a Bonsai too. Don't forget to take all the greenery on the underside of each branch.
I have "played" with Bonsai for a few years but only bought 3 year old trees from the nursery and sat them in 12"x12"x12" pots. Just over a week ago I lost two of them.... still trying to save them .... in the 41°C heat. The Cedrus Libani is still growing without missing a beat; and I have three new ones out the back under cover.... Pinus. I lost the 27 year old Pinus Parviflora and the 18 month old Cupressus Macrocarpa. I call these two man Bonsais as that is what it takes to lift them and move them eh.

Re: Cedrus Libani
Posted: January 25th, 2013, 9:12 pm
by MoGanic
Mokurai wrote:Hi,
Nice looking Cedrus Libani. How old is it? How tall is it?

I would suggest you leave those two bottom branches where they are .... they look good and the second branch appears to be behind the tree... always need to be on the outside of a bend eh. However, might I suggest taking all the greenery off each branch from the trunk, out two thirds of each branch. This will make it look more of a Bonsai too. Don't forget to take all the greenery on the underside of each branch.
I have "played" with Bonsai for a few years but only bought 3 year old trees from the nursery and sat them in 12"x12"x12" pots. Just over a week ago I lost two of them.... still trying to save them .... in the 41°C heat. The Cedrus Libani is still growing without missing a beat; and I have three new ones out the back under cover.... Pinus. I lost the 27 year old Pinus Parviflora and the 18 month old Cupressus Macrocarpa. I call these two man Bonsais as that is what it takes to lift them and move them eh.

And on that note, a little update!
The branches will remain for a while but theyre living on the edge i tells ya!!
Would love to see ur trees mate.. Even the dead ones haha
Thanks for the positivity btw
-Mo
Re: Cedrus Libani
Posted: January 25th, 2013, 9:40 pm
by MoGanic
I'd just like to add... photos make this one look so 2D it just... ugh frustrating.
I need to get a camera which shows better depth and higher contrast - and also some photography lessons

Re: Cedrus Libani
Posted: January 26th, 2013, 4:22 am
by craigw60
Rather than create flat foliage pads I would recommend pulling the branches down more and using the sub branches to make steps with the foliage. Branches on cedars take many years to set so you need to wire them almost all the time, they look much better wired right out to the tips of the sub branches.
Craigw