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What wrong with the new growth

Posted: November 7th, 2012, 3:27 pm
by matty-j
Hey everyone :wave:
The new growth on one of my trees doesn't seem right :lost:
Hackimoto identified it as a Sapium sebiferum
Any help would be appreciated

Cheers
Matt
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Re: What wrong with the new growth

Posted: November 7th, 2012, 5:27 pm
by shibui
Looks like it could be a fungal problem. (check to see there are no aphids hiding in the curled leaves as these sometimes cause similar distortion) I see similar leaf distortion on Chinese elm, plums and crabapple occasionally. Trident maples had something similar a few years ago. Some people treated with heavy duty fungicide and believe that cured the problem. I did not treat with anything and it has not occurred in tridents here since then either.
Your options are to try a fungicide or just :fc: and hope it clears up.

Re: What wrong with the new growth

Posted: November 7th, 2012, 5:57 pm
by Hackimoto
Where are you keeping it? And do you wet the foliage regularly? My guess is you're keeping it under cover and you only water the soil. It could be a bad case of Red Spider Mite or Two Spotted Mite if you are not wetting the foliage. Mites thrive in a dry warm environment. Foliage should be wet regularly to cut down on their numbers.

Re: What wrong with the new growth

Posted: November 7th, 2012, 7:13 pm
by matty-j
shibui wrote:Looks like it could be a fungal problem. (check to see there are no aphids hiding in the curled leaves as these sometimes cause similar distortion) I see similar leaf distortion on Chinese elm, plums and crabapple occasionally. Trident maples had something similar a few years ago. Some people treated with heavy duty fungicide and believe that cured the problem. I did not treat with anything and it has not occurred in tridents here since then either.
Your options are to try a fungicide or just :fc: and hope it clears up.
thanks for the reply shibui
i had a look in some of the "curled" leaves but i could not find anything i did see a tiny tiny black bug running around it kinda looked like a flea?
i wouldn't have thought it was a fungal problem i found this tree on august the 31st completely bear rooted not even a speck of soil on it
so i just assumed it had to do with that
i originally posted the tree in this topic viewtopic.php?f=7&t=12811 if you wanted to see a photo of the root ball?
Hackimoto wrote:Where are you keeping it? And do you wet the foliage regularly? My guess is you're keeping it under cover and you only water the soil. It could be a bad case of Red Spider Mite or Two Spotted Mite if you are not wetting the foliage. Mites thrive in a dry warm environment. Foliage should be wet regularly to cut down on their numbers.
thanks for the reply hack
you have it spot on
i keep it under a large dense cypress which is on the west side so it only gets morning to some of the midday sun i wanted to keep it protected after collecting and the foliage heads towards the cypress so i don't really water the foliage :palm:
i have now moved it so it gets full sun i watered the foliage heavily to try and wash any bugs away and gave it a white oil

Re: What wrong with the new growth

Posted: November 7th, 2012, 9:15 pm
by Hackimoto
Keep us posted as to how any new growth develops. :cool: Make sure that you wash the majority of the oil off before strong sun hits it or it could burn badly.