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Just a quick post on the results of a recent bit of styling. As you may or may not know about a week ago i had surgery on my wrist. As you can imagine it had been driving me up the wall not being able to work on my trees. Last Sunday i decided to give it a shot and managed to do an OK job with 1.5 hands. The wiring is a bit messy as without full use of my right hand it was hard to apply it tightly and evenly. Anyway, results below. I did a fair bit of bending of the apex section without rafia so i could monitor the damage as it happened as the sap had started to move and splitting was more of an issue. all in all it bent with very little cracking or splitting. Anyway, pics below of the aftermath and a bad virtual of what it may look like filled in a little. Not sure if i will de-candle it this year or not, it will depend on how it bounces back from the styling and re-potting. Thoughts?

After the work Any one care to suggest a pot? I am thinking semi-cascade style tall and stocky style containers would suit it but its always nice to hear others opinions as i often overlook other options.

Joe.

Jow i like that heavy primary branch alot. Tree looks like its got a very good root spread as well. Pot needs to be squatty to mAtch this tree it aint femiline. Id like to see a round pot tapering down , id got a few at home ill post up so to give you my input. Again very nice tree mate and it wont take long to fill in.

Thanks for the comment Matt, I also like the heavy first branch, although the more i look at it the more i want to add some movement to it. I might give that a go next season, although some well placed foliage might hide it a bit??

Here is a range of options for pots... not sure what i am leaning towards yet..... maybe square?
What do people think? I think i like 02, 12, 17.

Lovley tree Jow
Personally I tlike pot #3 but pot selectionis the hardest thiing for me to grasp the idea of

Ken

kcpoole wrote:Lovley tree Jow
Personally I tlike pot #3 but pot selectionis the hardest thiing for me to grasp the idea of

Ken

Hi Ken,

I dont think there is ever one correct pot choice for a tree. Pot selection changes the feel of a tree and often comes down to personal preference. I chose that list of pots because i think they could all work with the tree it is just that some give different feelings to that of some of the others.

Thanks for the comment and suggestion, I have until next year before i have to decide on a pot so plenty of time to confuse myself.

Joe.

G'day Joe

Nice tree mate and good work for the injured.

I would have thought that first heavy branch was the trunk for a semi-cascade. I like that you have taken the length of the tail back in the virt. The trunk is a little straight as you said, but good movement would be hard now, so the foliage pads will do the job. If I may, the apex seems to lean too far back to the left for me only.

I like what you did to the pot in the virt, and it suits it well but with the foot not in the centre. One either side would create more balance. From the pot list you have, I like 9 & 10.

Tony

Bloody nice tree Joe and i would love to see a photo of the tree front on. Is there any movement in the lower branch. Pot wise 02 and 16 do it for me. I like the idea of a square pot. A future master piece if you ask me.

Thanks for the comment Tony.

Interestingly enough i didnt shorten the cascade branch at all in the virtual, i just bulked up the rest of the foliage. Intersting how it really changes the ballance! (EDIT: I just checked the photo again, the foliage at the end of the branch is care of a tree in the background)

As for movement in the cascade branch, it is thick, but where there is a will there is a way. I think with a bit of time i could get at least a bit of movement into it which would be a big improvement, failing that as you said the foliage will also help to cover the straightness.

Joe.

bodhidharma wrote:Bloody nice tree Joe and i would love to see a photo of the tree front on. Is there any movement in the lower branch. Pot wise 02 and 16 do it for me. I like the idea of a square pot. A future master piece if you ask me.

Thanks for the comment Bodhi, interesting that almost every person who has commented has chosen a different range of pots. I think i will have to (or someone else if they can be bothered) do a bunch of virtuals of the different options to get a real feel for what will look best.
As for seeing the tree front on, this is the front but when i get home i will try to get some more pics from different angles and also show some of the before photos.

Hope the ankle is healing!

Joe.

Great little tree and great work Jow . Im sorry but i have to say the primary branch is not in synergy with the rest of the tree anymore since compressing the top of the tree. It either needs to mimic the line character more so or a better tree with out JMO...

Joe,

Nice wiring for 1.5 hands. I think I agree with Tony, maybe the apex does need to come over to the right hand side a little more but you could probably grow that into new foliage.

Do you grow the large first branch on these pines or have they all come from the same grower as sacrifice branches?

I do like this one more than the upright one you have posted but maybe you could consider this as a long term option should the bending not work. Or graft onto the base of the large branch to get some movement and taper.


Maybe this pot? It looks well made (Horin) and it's a pretty good price. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bonsai-pot-H ... 4607964f96

On second thoughts, I think the pot is too wide.

This is just part of this tree's journey. The first branch is nicely tapered (ill get a pic tomorrow morning). I fixed the apex this styling and i hope to deal with the first branch in subsequent stylings. Ill let it recover from this first.

Before the work began it looked like this:
As long as i improve this tree each time i work on it i think it will have a good future.

Scott Roxburgh wrote:Joe,

Nice wiring for 1.5 hands. I think I agree with Tony, maybe the apex does need to come over to the right hand side a little more but you could probably grow that into new foliage.

Do you grow the large first branch on these pines or have they all come from the same grower as sacrifice branches?

I do like this one more than the upright one you have posted but maybe you could consider this as a long term option should the bending not work.

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Or graft onto the base of the large branch to get some movement and taper.


Maybe this pot? It looks well made (Horin) and it's a pretty good price.

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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bonsai-pot-H ... 4607964f96

Thanks for the comments Scott, this was from the same batch of pines i got as the other with the thick first branch. The strong first branch on each were both sacrifice branches.

I dont think i would either cut off the first branch and or re-grow it. It has nice movement front to back and taper, and i am sure i can get it to work movement wise form the front in the future. Ill let it recover from the apex work first though.

That pot is nice although im not sure an oval is the go. I would love to find something old. Once i get settled on a style of pot i will start to hunt one down.

Joe

anttal63 wrote:Great little tree and great work Jow . Im sorry but i have to say the primary branch is not in synergy with the rest of the tree anymore since compressing the top of the tree. It either needs to mimic the line character more so or a better tree with out JMO...

Hi tony,

You are right about the first branch although it and the apex were out before the work! I am probably not going to cut it off, a bit more bending should sort it out next year. As you know, pines are a long road.

Joe