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Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 9:30 am
by MoGanic
Going to be working on this stock soon! (Actual pictures to follow)

Below is a sketch of how I would enjoy it to turn out :).

Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 9:39 am
by evenings
Cool ^_^ weirdly, I've always loved drawing trees. Looking forward to photos.

Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 9:44 am
by Andrew F
MoGanic wrote:Going to be working on this stock soon! (Actual pictures to follow)

Below is a sketch of how I would enjoy it to turn out :).
Hi moganic, might wanna address the reverse taper in the trunk above the soil line. What sp. of tree will it be?

Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 9:53 am
by MoGanic
Don't remember the species at all right now, but I'll have the stock after work today so I'll post pics up. Hopefully get an ID! Also - wouldn't holding it down via mesh/wiring at the base of the pot solve that problem? I kinda like the slanty look!

Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 10:13 am
by Andrew F
Its not the style that could be a potential problem its the trunk, gotta replicate nature. So start from the ground up when designing a tree, build foundation ie Roots, base and trunk:

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Tapered trunk:

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Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 10:19 am
by MoGanic
VelvetSicklid wrote:Its not the style that could be a potential problem its the trunk, gotta replicate nature. So start from the ground up when designing a tree, build foundation ie Roots, base and trunk:

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Tapered trunk:

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Ah I see, so basically let it grow out a bit and develop a good root system and a sturdy base prior to styling? (Sorry if I sound like a newb :( , am lovving how much I'm learning though!) :hooray:

Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 10:52 am
by MoGanic
Just a pic of the actual plant from the above sketch

Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 12:02 pm
by Andrew F
MoGanic wrote:
Ah I see, so basically let it grow out a bit and develop a good root system and a sturdy base prior to styling? (Sorry if I sound like a newb :( , am lovving how much I'm learning though!) :hooray:
Its a balancing act really. Basically you'll want to dig the tree [i dont know what sp. it is so i cant offer advice on the best way to dig it or when] and then go straight from there into a grow box or into a grow patch in your back yard. Learn basic horticultural techniques before trying to apply bonsai styling. But in a sentence, yes, develop the base of the tree before worrying about the crown and branch ramification.

Sorry that i cant offer anymore advice, Im only a year into bonsai myself, but its amazing what can be learnt in a year.


Your signature is a very appropriate analogy of where i was 6-12 months ago. Its only been lately that ive grasped the real time frame it takes to develop a tree.

Best of luck. Drew.

Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 12:12 pm
by MoGanic
Thanks for that Drew - definitely will plant it in a grow patch/box.

I really do wish I knew the species though, would help on looking up notes on soil preference, sun tolerance, cold tolerance etc... I'm hoping to pick it up today as I dont really have time most of the week. Lets hope it holds out till I get an ID!

Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 12:55 pm
by kcpoole
Collect and then ensure recovery first.
the worry about what to do or how to style it:-)
a minimum of a year usually between collection and working on the tree (depending on species), so plenty of time to consider options.

Ken

Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 12:57 pm
by MoGanic
kcpoole wrote:Collect and then ensure recovery first.
the worry about what to do or how to style it:-)
a minimum of a year usually between collection and working on the tree (depending on species), so plenty of time to consider options.

Ken
As this is a woody tree/shrub, should I soak the root ball in Seasol/Water solution?

Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 1:20 pm
by Andrew F
MoGanic wrote:
kcpoole wrote:Collect and then ensure recovery first.
the worry about what to do or how to style it:-)
a minimum of a year usually between collection and working on the tree (depending on species), so plenty of time to consider options.

Ken
As this is a woody tree/shrub, should I soak the root ball in Seasol/Water solution?
You might be better off going back to it and getting detailed macro shots of:

Bark.
Flowers.
Underside/top side of the leaves.

And have a little dig around it to see what sort of root ball it has, might be loose, might be tight. Probably should dig and retain as much of the root ball and surrounding soil to be on the safe side.


From one white belt to another can i suggest ficus to start off with? lol

Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 1:28 pm
by MoGanic
VelvetSicklid wrote:
MoGanic wrote:
kcpoole wrote:Collect and then ensure recovery first.
the worry about what to do or how to style it:-)
a minimum of a year usually between collection and working on the tree (depending on species), so plenty of time to consider options.

Ken
As this is a woody tree/shrub, should I soak the root ball in Seasol/Water solution?
You might be better off going back to it and getting detailed macro shots of:

Bark.
Flowers.
Underside/top side of the leaves.

And have a little dig around it to see what sort of root ball it has, might be loose, might be tight. Probably should dig and retain as much of the root ball and surrounding soil to be on the safe side.


From one white belt to another can i suggest ficus to start off with? lol
Seems to be in quite good shape re-root ball, is loosish but is about 3/4 the size of the plant itself at least (not including the really lengthy branch).

I have actually got a Ficus - pic below! It has a friend too, got him for 7 bucks and he seems super happy with that one fish he's caught! 8-)

Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 1:30 pm
by Ray M
Hi moganic,
Yes, soak the tree in Seasol for several hours before planting. After planting feed the tree with Seasol each week until you see new growth appearing. You can then give the tree liquid fertiliser. I use Powerfeed and Chaliecarp. I alternate the feeding between the two fertilisers.

I hope the tree goes well for you. :tu:

Regards Ray

Re: Sketch!

Posted: May 8th, 2012, 1:37 pm
by MoGanic
Ray M wrote:Hi moganic,
Yes, soak the tree in Seasol for several hours before planting. After planting feed the tree with Seasol each week until you see new growth appearing. You can then give the tree liquid fertiliser. I use Powerfeed and Chaliecarp. I alternate the feeding between the two fertilisers.

I hope the tree goes well for you. :tu:

Regards Ray
Thanks mate! Will post pics re: progress soon as things start moving along. Very excited to see this one pull through and judging by the tree itself, it's in very good condition! :hooray: