Page 1 of 2
Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 7th, 2012, 6:50 pm
by eliass
Please provide some opinions on the following tree I styled earlier today.

Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 7th, 2012, 8:06 pm
by daiviet_nguyen
Hi eliass,
The roots would need works later on. When the soils washed away, a few smaller roots would get killed by the heat. The bigger ones would get exposed.
I am not sure if this is what you have in mind.
I have quite a few black pines like that and am still correcting them.
Cheers.
Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 7th, 2012, 8:27 pm
by AndrewM
Gday eliass
I think you have potted the pine to high as daiviet said the roots will die back with the heat. Also pine candles will grow up so if you wire the tips upright I think it will look better. When you next repot if you rake the roots out so they don't cross over this will improve the root spread.
Andrew
Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 7th, 2012, 8:33 pm
by eliass
Thanks for the feed back...should I slip pot it now or wait a season ? I have read that pines prefer to have one thing done at a time
Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 7th, 2012, 8:47 pm
by AndrewM
I am not shore about your climate down there but I work pines pretty hard up here in QLD. I think it should be ok to slip pot it.
Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 7th, 2012, 9:00 pm
by eliass
Relatively warm at the moment just keep it in speckled light?
Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 7th, 2012, 9:07 pm
by siddhar
Slip potting should be fine mate.
Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 7th, 2012, 9:10 pm
by eliass
Cheers Sid !
Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 7th, 2012, 9:33 pm
by Guy
with a tree growing in a constant prevailing wind I would expect the trunk to be more affected
Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 7th, 2012, 9:42 pm
by daiviet_nguyen
Hi eliass,
IMHO slip pot at the wrong time should only be reserved for emergency -- especially with a good looking pine like this one.
I would find a plastic pot large enough, cut out the bottom, then vertically cut through the whole remaining, so you have an opening, then wrap this around the exposed root ball. Fill it up and tied with wires or something, might be electrical tapes?
This way we can ensure the survival of the feeder roots and not place the tree at any risk.
Then for the next appropriate repot, you can apply what AndrewM has said above.
Best regards.
Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 7th, 2012, 10:22 pm
by eliass
Thanks Daiviet could you explain the process further? Can I not just remove the plant from the pot and pop it untouched into a large polystyrene box and fill it to just slightly below the exposed roots?
Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 8th, 2012, 10:50 am
by daiviet_nguyen
Hi eliass,
There is nothing "wrong" with what you are planning.
It is just how I perceive thing. I always imagine the worse and work from there.
I had just done a slip pot on a pine once only last June/2011:
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=4837
This is for emergency.
Have some liquid Seasol ready

Around $12.00 twice-pack
Best regards.
Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 8th, 2012, 11:00 am
by eliass
Thanks for the link Daiviet
Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 8th, 2012, 11:37 am
by The Ficus Guy
Not sure if I agree with the branch on the bottom right of the tree. While the foliage may be going into the wind, the branch itself isn't. I would be tempted to jin it...
Re: Black Pine windswept style please critique
Posted: January 8th, 2012, 12:29 pm
by kcpoole
The Ficus Guy wrote:Not sure if I agree with the branch on the bottom right of the tree. While the foliage may be going into the wind, the branch itself isn't. I would be tempted to jin it...
I agree. It either needs to come off or Jin
Or be bent around as if it was being blown back by the wind. Also the apex need to be bent back by the wind too
Ken