plum of plums

Bretts · Post by **Bretts** » October 8th, 2009, 1:16 pm

Whatever seems like manners are a work in progress too!

anttal63 · Post by **anttal63** » October 8th, 2009, 1:18 pm

easy killer control that homer.

Bretts · Post by **Bretts** » October 8th, 2009, 1:21 pm

And you wonder why I didn't want to say anything.

anttal63 · Post by **anttal63** » October 8th, 2009, 1:22 pm

sorry man i just keep forgetting.

Bretts · Post by **Bretts** » October 8th, 2009, 1:43 pm

The pre-mature stage in terms of anatomical condition is what I saw when I looked at this tree. Pauls word incongruous means much the same thing.

The success of a good bonsai design depends on how the bonsai effectively communicates with the viewer in telling its history of life through the demonstration of aesthetic value added to it. If we succeed in doing so, it means we have fulfilled the three aspects of good bonsai: aesthetic beauty, horticultural clues and thematic messages.

Read more about this here
http://knowledgeofbonsai.org/articles/t ... in-bonsai/

63pmp · Post by **63pmp** » October 9th, 2009, 10:52 am

I've been away for a day or so, sorry for coming back late on this.

The title of the post is "Plum of plums" and not much else was said regarding its history or what it was about. Just the photo of a proud dad and his creation. So I just went with "Well, it's not that great" as too many times on this site very ordinary material is lauded as wonderful, I feel many beginners would then accept mediocre material as good material. Something that I feel is quite wrong.

However, I am happy to go along with work in progress, as that makes more sense to me than it being a finished project. It really helps to get more detail in the original posting, but also, I could have asked where he was going with this tree? Just didn't occur to me at the time.

Paul

anttal63 · Post by **anttal63** » October 10th, 2009, 6:09 am

[quote="63pmp"]I've been away for a day or so, sorry for coming back late on this.

The title of the post is "Plum of plums" and not much else was said regarding its history or what it was about. Just the photo of a proud dad and his creation. So I just went with "Well, it's not that great" as too many times on this site very ordinary material is lauded as wonderful, I feel many beginners would then accept mediocre material as good material. Something that I feel is quite wrong.

However, I am happy to go along with work in progress, as that makes more sense to me than it being a finished project. It really helps to get more detail in the original posting, but also, I could have asked where he was going with this tree? Just didn't occur to me at the time.

Paul[/quote ]

i got no problems with that, thanks for your input, but i would love to see some of your trees so the rest of us beginners can get a clear picture of things.

bodhidharma · Post by **bodhidharma** » October 10th, 2009, 8:37 am

Actually Ant i was thinking exactly that very thing. Thanks for reflecting my thoughts.

63pmp · Post by **63pmp** » October 10th, 2009, 5:43 pm

If your uncertain of what a good bonsai looks like then have a look in any of the Kokofu-ten books, Walter Pall's gallery, the gallery in any issue of Bonsai today. I also suggest you read "Bonsai Aesthetics" by Francois Jeker.

Paul

sreeve · Post by **sreeve** » October 10th, 2009, 6:13 pm

Bretts · Post by **Bretts** » October 10th, 2009, 6:14 pm

I have a photo compilation of amazing bonsai watching it before I go to style my trees is like listening to Slayer before I go for a surf

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » October 10th, 2009, 6:20 pm

sreeve wrote:PMSL

what does that mean????

63pmp wrote:If your uncertain of what a good bonsai looks like then have a look in any of the Kokofu-ten books, Walter Pall's gallery, the gallery in any issue of Bonsai today. I also suggest you read "Bonsai Aesthetics" by Francois Jeker.

Paul

and with out trying to cause arguements, and my curiousity has gotten the better of me, are you comparing your ability of creating bonsai with a kokufu bonsai? and the likes of walter pall? maybe i read it wrong but thats just how it seemed to me?

regards jamie

anttal63 · Post by **anttal63** » October 10th, 2009, 6:41 pm

63pmp wrote:If your uncertain of what a good bonsai looks like then have a look in any of the Kokofu-ten books, Walter Pall's gallery, the gallery in any issue of Bonsai today. I also suggest you read "Bonsai Aesthetics" by Francois Jeker.Paul

as you very well know paul, i am very familiar with names you mention but i am far more interested in your trees.

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » October 10th, 2009, 6:47 pm

anttal63 wrote:
63pmp wrote:If your uncertain of what a good bonsai looks like then have a look in any of the Kokofu-ten books, Walter Pall's gallery, the gallery in any issue of Bonsai today. I also suggest you read "Bonsai Aesthetics" by Francois Jeker.Paul
as you very well know paul, i am very familiar with names you mention but i am far more interested in your trees.

that makes 2 of us ant

63pmp · Post by **63pmp** » October 10th, 2009, 7:06 pm

I'm just trying to keep this thread on topic.

The original poster claims that the tree at the beginning of the thread is the "plum of plums". That makes it the quintessential plum, and places it into the same category/class as the references I pointed you to.

As for suggesting my trees are as good as walters.

Yeah Right. I wish!!!!! I think you should read my comment again, it suggests you look elsewhere for good bonsai. If you want to look at good trees, don't look at mine.

Paul

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