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Re: Leigh Taafe demo 05.04.'09
Posted: April 8th, 2009, 10:46 pm
by Asus101
Pup wrote:soltan wrote:
Juniperus is part of the conifer family, as is Chamaecyparis obtusa Nana Gracilis.

Pup
Please note Asus

A pine is a conifer but seeing one you wouldnt say "I might have to go and buy some junipers to style"
I was just putting forward that this isnt a juniper.
Re: Leigh Taafe demo 05.04.'09
Posted: April 8th, 2009, 11:10 pm
by Pup
Asus101 wrote:Pup wrote:soltan wrote:
Juniperus is part of the conifer family, as is Chamaecyparis obtusa Nana Gracilis.

Pup
Please note Asus

A pine is a conifer but seeing one you wouldnt say "I might have to go and buy some junipers to style"
I was just putting forward that this isnt a juniper.
Conifer, is a very broad statement as is Juniper, as is bookleaf pine. All are terms used when describing various members of the coniferous family.
Like the slender cypress pine.
One of Australia's conifers. it is not a pine not even a juniper it is a Calitris.
What I am pointing out is the correct way, so when common names are used how much confusion there can be.
Re: Leigh Taafe demo 05.04.'09
Posted: April 8th, 2009, 11:51 pm
by Asus101
Hahaha you win old man.
Re: Leigh Taafe demo 05.04.'09
Posted: April 9th, 2009, 8:56 am
by Leigh Taafe
Thankyou to all for your nice comments.
I will try my hardest to spend some more time on this tree before too long so I can get you all another pic up here.
Cheers,
Leigh.
Re: Leigh Taafe demo 05.04.'09
Posted: April 9th, 2009, 9:40 am
by Bretts
I did a google search on this species and came up with very little. Maybe a discription of this species would be helpful
I am thinking it is not a native but getting confused. Was that a leaf I heard falling

Re: Leigh Taafe demo 05.04.'09
Posted: April 9th, 2009, 10:42 am
by Pup
soltan wrote:I did a google search on this species and came up with very little. Maybe a discription of this species would be helpful
I am thinking it is not a native but getting confused. Was that a leaf I heard falling

Brett Callitris is the Australian conifer. There are about 30 I believe sub species. I misspelled it sorry.
The other one is Chamaecyparis obtusa, of which there are quite a few sub species, this is the one that gets referred to as Hinoki cypress.
As I said common names lead to confusion. That is why when ever possible, we should use the Botanical name as well as the common name.
As I said I am sorry this is also misleading. So I will give my self a swift kick up the jacksy

Pup
Re: Leigh Taafe demo 05.04.'09
Posted: April 9th, 2009, 12:17 pm
by Bretts
No worries Pup thanks for that.
Found this by Wiki
Chamaecyparis obtusa (Japanese cypress, Hinoki cypress or Hinoki; Japanese: 檜 or 桧, hinoki) is a species of cypress native to central Japan.[2][3]
Foliage; underside showing white stomatal linesIt is a slow-growing tree which grows to 35 m tall with a trunk up to 1 m in diameter. The bark is dark red-brown. The leaves are scale-like, 2-4 mm long, blunt tipped (obtuse), green above, and green below with a white stomatal band at the base of each scale-leaf. The cones are globose, 8-12 mm diameter, with 8-12 scales arranged in opposite pairs. The related Chamaecyparis pisifera (Sawara Cypress) can be readily distinguished in its having pointed tips to the leaves and smaller cones.[2][3]
A similar cypress found on Taiwan is treated by different botanists as either a variety of this species (as Chamaecyparis obtusa var. formosana) or as a separate species Chamaecyparis taiwanensis; it differs in having smaller cones (6-9 mm diameter) with smaller scales, and leaves with a more acute apex.[2][3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamaecyparis_obtusa
I believe I have a couple of Callitris that I have been growing out in ground for a couple of years. Thier growth habit seems promising I maybe should have got them out of the ground last year though.
Any advice for collection or transplant time?
[EDIT] Brettles - I've moved replies to this Callitris question into a new thread: Callitris 2 (Split From Taafe Demo Thread). Fly.[/EDIT]
Re: Leigh Taafe demo 05.04.'09
Posted: April 13th, 2009, 6:08 pm
by Pup
LLK wrote:Thanks for the kind words.
I wouldn't have missed this demo for the world. Has anyone ever seen, or heard of, a public Hinoki demo, here or overseas? I haven't. This species is far from easy to work with, generally, and one doesn't see all that many bonsai specimens anywhere. So, top class work on a Hinoki this size and age is something unique.
With time, the natural, beautiful layering of the foliage should make this tree yet more outstanding.
I'll post some more pics of the Weston Creek Bnsai Group show when I've processed them, hoping you don't get tired of it all.
Lisa
Lisa I was just re reading one of my old magazines. In it has a picture of an Hinoki cypress in the National Collection of the USA donted by Syuhei Nagai. It is reputedly 150 years old.
Also Mary Ballendock did a demo quite a few years back. I am not sure on copy right so I have not included pics. If some one can advise on that.
The particular tree is in the Book Timeless trees of America.
Also the Magazine published by Colin Lewis of the UK." Bonsai " issue number- 2- 1989 page- 15.
This is the forrunner to Bonsai Europe, Bonsai Focus.

Pup
Re: Leigh Taafe demo 05.04.'09
Posted: April 14th, 2009, 12:27 am
by Pup
g,day Lisa I was doing some more reading, my braims hurt now

. It International Bonsai the magazine published by Bill Valavanis.
Issue 1995/no 3 on conifer Bonsai there is an interesting article on Chamaecyparis obtusa by a gentleman by the name of Kamjiro Yamada.
He said that at the end of the Meiji period (1867-1911 ) his father and many others used to graft Chabo Hiba using common hinoki cypress understock.
There are some nice looking trees in there too. He goes onto say there were a lot cultivated then, but the fell out of favour because they were labour intensive. They love water. This should not be neglected. It is a six page 12 --18, article goes into some depthon the cultivation of them. I hope this is of some help to you.Pup
