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Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 26th, 2017, 9:57 pm
by Shagga
Wow can't wait to see how they come along, especially that last one. Good work mate :cool:

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 27th, 2017, 8:08 am
by alpineart
Hi Mel' , the base and narebri begins development in the first year with all my starter stock , branches are usually set with plenty of options in the 3rd , 4th and 5th years . The bases on these where flat cut like olives with a handsaw

I have sent dozens of tridents up to QLD but never seen a follow up pic or topic , keen to see how yours have developed up there .

Cheers . Alpine

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 27th, 2017, 8:11 am
by alpineart
Hi Shagga , thanks for the feedback , all good things come to those who put the foot work in .

Cheers . Alpine

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 27th, 2017, 8:33 am
by melbrackstone
Thanks Ian, as soon as I get a moment I'll take some shots for you. (I'm not sure they're absolutely thriving up here, but they're doing ok.)

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 28th, 2017, 5:28 pm
by alpineart
Another couple more had a hack and chop today , in my spare time between jobs . Both these have had major height reduction and new leaders wired up .
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This one was savaged a bit more with 2 height reduction chops
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Both had major root pruning and re-potted .

Cheers . Alpineart

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 29th, 2017, 11:49 am
by alpineart
Here is a few grow bed trunks that have had a hack and chop for another season
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These will be planted into planter bags , wired , then set into grow beds awaiting sale . Better get back out there and lay some more rocks .

Cheers Alpineart

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 29th, 2017, 12:35 pm
by Bougy Fan
(I'm not sure they're absolutely thriving up here, but they're doing ok.)
Funny you should say that Melbrackstone - this seems to be my experience too. I have a few tridents I bought from alpineart and they haven't taken off like I would have expected. There was nothing wrong with the stock - they would have to be the best I have ever bought period. Great root work with lovely radial flare and nice trunks with taper. I know I haven't been fertilising anywhere near as much as I should be, but I still wonder if it isn't a bit too warm here in Brisvegas for tridents ?

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 29th, 2017, 6:46 pm
by melbrackstone
Tony I think the ones that are doing marginally better are the ones in deeper pots or in pots that are sitting on the ground, where the roots can grow down. I wonder if we here in Brisbane should be looking more at the Taiwanese maple as our go to deciduous... I believe they're more sub-tropical...

It also could be that the quite severe difference between Ian's climate and ours will take a couple of years to recover from...

Will just have to see if we can keep them alive in the meantime. :)

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 29th, 2017, 7:00 pm
by Matthew
melbrackstone wrote:Tony I think the ones that are doing marginally better are the ones in deeper pots or in pots that are sitting on the ground, where the roots can grow down. I wonder if we here in Brisbane should be looking more at the Taiwanese maple as our go to deciduous... I believe they're more sub-tropical...

It also could be that the quite severe difference between Ian's climate and ours will take a couple of years to recover from...

Will just have to see if we can keep them alive in the meantime. :)
I grew trident in rockhampton for 5 years both which ih hotter and more humid then brisbane. Did they thrive NO but they did survive. They grow quite well in rhe hinterlands i know

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 29th, 2017, 8:17 pm
by alpineart
HI guys , maybe their suffering from fertilizer withdrawals :reading: , all my material and garden is regularly fertilized with Rustica Plus all year round .http://www.campbellsfert.com.au/product ... tica-plus/

Even my natives are fertilized with this product, the only plant here that doesn't appear like it are the Kangaroo Paws .

Numerous plants grown in the same sand trays /wet beds , can get a bit burnt or overdose and die if used heavy handed :oops: .as I sometimes do

Cheers Alpine

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 30th, 2017, 7:46 am
by melbrackstone
HI guys , maybe their suffering from fertilizer withdrawals
Entirely possible, Ian, and I'll up the rates of feeding to see if it makes a difference. Cheers. :)

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 30th, 2017, 8:32 am
by alpineart
Hi Mel , I constantly trim these back during the growing season , redirecting the energy to where it is needed and building the branches and ramification year by year . They are hungry little buggers and I see the difference If I miss a pot or two , even in a grow bed I make sure each trunk is fertilized separately .

Cheers . Alpine

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 30th, 2017, 3:06 pm
by alpineart
These are straight from the grow bed to the pot
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, needed to move some pots so I thought I might as well fill them up

Cheers alpineart

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 30th, 2017, 4:01 pm
by melbrackstone
They are hungry little buggers and I see the difference If I miss a pot or two , even in a grow bed I make sure each trunk is fertilized separately
That really does sound like where I've gone wrong then Ian, if they don't get enough feed, then they're clearly not thriving! Problem solved! Cheers. :)

Re: Tridents Galore

Posted: July 30th, 2017, 8:30 pm
by alpineart
Hi Mel , Rustica Plus is a compound granular 3-4 months slow release fert and I dose the trees the moment is disappears . I don't bury it so i can be seen basically disolving over time then add more when I think it needs it , that could be 6-8 weeks depending on the amount of watering being done . This year I only watered once a day , last year it was up to 3 Times a day so more ferts were used . An average year I use 50 -60 kg last year I used 90 kg .

Cheers . Alpine