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Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: March 11th, 2015, 9:44 am
by Ray M
Hi Alpine,
What a difference from when you started work on this tree. I hope this will be an encouragement to those who are "beginners". It shows what can be done with time, effort and patience.
Good job Mate.
Regards Ray
Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: March 11th, 2015, 10:31 am
by alpineart
Hi Ray , mate thanks for the inspiration to keep going

. This has come along nicely and for a Deodara it does look quite good in the flesh .I had 2 others sister tree's "blue specimens" developing but my young fella snapped the apex off 1 with his mountain bike and damaged the tail of th 2nd trainer , he thought he could ride along and down the rock retaining walls

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Cheers Alpine
Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: March 11th, 2015, 12:09 pm
by bodhidharma
It has come a long way in a short time Alp's

Just imagine if you paid it your undivided attention.

Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: March 11th, 2015, 3:33 pm
by Boics
Fantastic thread Alpine.
Coming along really really well and really looks the part now!
Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: March 11th, 2015, 3:58 pm
by Ray M
alpineart wrote:Hi Ray , mate thanks for the inspiration to keep going

. This has come along nicely and for a Deodara it does look quite good in the flesh .I had 2 others sister tree's "blue specimens" developing but my young fella snapped the apex off 1 with his mountain bike and damaged the tail of th 2nd trainer , he thought he could ride along and down the rock retaining walls

.
Cheers Alpine
Hi Mate,
You will have to erect a 4metre wall.
Regards Ray
Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: March 11th, 2015, 5:16 pm
by alpineart
Hi Bodhi , mate everything here has been neglected so it will take a lot of time and effort to pull them back into shape .
Hi Biocs , mate I'm rather stoked with the progress considering the neglect .
Hi Ray , bugger the 4m wall i just banned the bike completely
Cheers Guys . Alpine
Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: January 31st, 2017, 3:46 pm
by Max
Hi Alpineart...love the progression...especially love the use of the rock to give the impression of a large base
Thank you
Max
Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: February 1st, 2017, 7:24 am
by alpineart
Hi no idea , I utilized the existing roots to create this root on rock cascade , just to be different . It has progressed nicely
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. It has had a couple of minor trims this season , now its due for a major cut and wire which is on the list of "must do" things along with many others .
Cheers . Alpine
Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: February 1st, 2017, 9:17 am
by Matthew
Alpine
This has progessed very nicely . Yes indeed a wire needs to be on the cards. cedar branches love to bounce back so that cascading branch will need taming . again lovely work

Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: February 1st, 2017, 5:41 pm
by alpineart
Hi Matthew , mate it has progressed nicely and yes these cedars are notorious for bouncing back like tennis balls . The tail is usually wired down into a full cascade , come show time it bounces back into a semi cascade . I use a fine guide wire to hold the tail firm in the full cascade position and I've been known to use it in the show .A couple of hours of concentrated work trimming and wiring
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Now I need to find the next tree to work over , just can't remember where i put it
Cheers . Alpine
Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: February 1st, 2017, 7:56 pm
by Max
Hi Alpine..have you ever tried bending your desired branch too an extreme a number of times and then wired? i find i get movement that stays, I've never wired mine yet, mind you I've only had mine for a month
Regards
Max
Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: February 2nd, 2017, 7:46 am
by alpineart
Hi no idea , mate if you do that the branch is destined to die . When you wire a branch or a trunk you bend it into position without twisting back and forth or the fibres and bark seperate or break. That will definately weaken the branch and die back will be the result . You might get away with it on the odd occasion but I certainly wouldn't do it .
Cheers Alpine
Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: February 2nd, 2017, 10:52 pm
by Max
alpineart wrote:Hi no idea , mate if you do that the branch is destined to die . When you wire a branch or a trunk you bend it into position without twisting back and forth or the fibres and bark seperate or break. That will definately weaken the branch and die back will be the result . You might get away with it on the odd occasion but I certainly wouldn't do it .
Cheers Alpine
Hi Alpine....well i better bloody well stop doing it then or I'm going to end up with Jin's left right and centre
Thank you
Max
Re: Cast Iron Deodara Cedar "Yamadori"
Posted: January 16th, 2023, 5:28 am
by alpineart
This had a trim yesterday
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in need of wiring again however its not going to happen in my time unless some wonderful person comes along and does it for me or it finds a new home .
Aging gracefully unlike myself .
Cheers Ian