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Re: Hawthorne with Peter Adams

Posted: October 24th, 2009, 6:27 am
by Jarrod
I thnk that once the branch "secondary trunk" fills in and you takethe branchs out off that this tree will be a unique beauty to behold. I think Mr Adams was trying to give you a tree that will stand out in a crowd of informal uprights. Also it allows for a full canopy on the tree making the leftside look less bare as it wouldif that was removed.

Plus you can always take it off later ;)

Re: Hawthorne with Peter Adams

Posted: October 24th, 2009, 8:31 pm
by Watto
This has been really interesting for me with there being some strong views on the "first branch", some for and some against.
At this stage I am sticking with my original view of following Peter's opinion, but I do really like Jarrod's view, leave it for now and if I don't like it later on, then take it off.
Thanks for all the comments.

Re: Hawthorne with Peter Adams

Posted: October 24th, 2009, 8:40 pm
by Bretts
Hey Watto don't run off so quick what about my question?
Did Peter give a time frame to get to the stage of the drawing? he did with mine of I think 3-4 years.

Re: Hawthorne with Peter Adams

Posted: October 25th, 2009, 9:03 pm
by Watto
I received the "real"sketch today, and I'm in love (again). It will be going in a frame soon as a momento of a great weekend. In answer to your question Bretts, Peter thinks 2-3 years. At present the branch in question is way too long (and the tree a bit tall) if you compare it to the sketch, however I am leaving it a bit long in an attempt to thicken it a bit.

PS - I picked up my sketch from Clinton Nesci at the nursery and also had a look at the School of Bonsai exhibition - very enjoyable day out!

Re: Hawthorne with Peter Adams

Posted: October 25th, 2009, 9:56 pm
by Bretts
Thats what I was thinking Watto. I was suprised that Peter made these drawings with such a short time frame. I guess he has his reasons. I would like to get his impression of the tree in 10 years time it would obviosly look some what different.

Re: Hawthorne with Peter Adams

Posted: October 26th, 2009, 6:53 pm
by Watto
He might be getting another invite in a couple of years and wants another look at them???

Re: Hawthorne with Peter Adams

Posted: October 26th, 2009, 7:13 pm
by Bretts
I wondered if I went again whether I would take the same tree.I realised that from Peter's website you can get the Design package online. That is a much cheaper option for me taking travel and stuff into consideration :)

Re: Hawthorne with Peter Adams

Posted: October 26th, 2009, 7:24 pm
by Jamie
brett,

if i am reading correctly you can take images of your trees and send them to peter adams and he will do a detailed drawing of where he thinks the tree should go and how to get it there???
i went to his site but couldnt find anything about online stuff like that??? i understand there are costs involved but i think i would be very interested in something like this :D

regards jamie :D

Re: Hawthorne with Peter Adams

Posted: October 26th, 2009, 7:43 pm
by anttal63
Jarrod wrote:I thnk that once the branch "secondary trunk" fills in and you takethe branchs out off that this tree will be a unique beauty to behold. I think Mr Adams was trying to give you a tree that will stand out in a crowd of informal uprights. Also it allows for a full canopy on the tree making the leftside look less bare as it wouldif that was removed.

Plus you can always take it off later ;)

spot on jezza; i also think this design will come into its own when in blossom and leaf. ;)

Re: Hawthorne with Peter Adams

Posted: October 26th, 2009, 7:55 pm
by Bretts
There is only a small mention on the home page 3rd paragraph down.
Peter now lives in Washington state in the U.S. with his wife Kate. Together they have put together a superb collection of bonsai and now travel and teach worldwide. As this site continues you will have the opportunity to see their collection as well as trees that belong to many of their students. Peter offers on-line design and tuition.
He does it for Bonsai Focus ever issue, last one I saw anyway, so he must find it very workable.

Re: Hawthorne with Peter Adams

Posted: October 26th, 2009, 8:06 pm
by Jamie
ahhhh, awesome. i might have to look into this. and pricing. let us know how you go with it if you decide to brett. i will post any results if i go ahead aswell :D


and by the way watto great tree. i think that lowest branch will work just fine in time. i think it might even thicken and look more like a second trunk.


regards jamie :D

Re: Hawthorne with Peter Adams

Posted: October 26th, 2009, 8:24 pm
by Watto
Thanks mate!

Re: Hawthorne with Peter Adams

Posted: October 26th, 2009, 8:37 pm
by Bretts
anttal63 wrote:
Jarrod wrote:I thnk that once the branch "secondary trunk" fills in and you takethe branchs out off that this tree will be a unique beauty to behold. I think Mr Adams was trying to give you a tree that will stand out in a crowd of informal uprights. Also it allows for a full canopy on the tree making the leftside look less bare as it wouldif that was removed.

Plus you can always take it off later ;)

spot on jezza; i also think this design will come into its own when in blossom and leaf. ;)

Remember that a deciduous tree must hold it's own or even best displayed when naked.
Anyway I find these comments interesting when compared to a tree I had in the sale section but as to not Hijack the thread I better discuss that in it's thread.

It is no longer for sale as like in My Fair Lady I have "Grown accustomed to her face" :D

See here
viewtopic.php?f=102&t=855&p=8049&hilit= ... +elm#p8049