fused juniper squamata, ispired by anntal :D

[anttal63]

nothing has changed except that it is popping nicely now. will update soon. remember this one viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1035

was done in this method by paul sweeney.

[Gerard]

A tree which I believe was developed using this method, it was styled by Michael Persiano 2.5 years ago

[anttal63]

A tree which I believe was developed using this method, it was styled by Michael Persiano 2.5 years ago

if i remember correctly someone from queensland paid a 1000 in the auction for it.this was done in the same batch as mine by paul. hiro saito also did demo's on a couple the month b4. by the end of the AABC 2007, paul was wishing he had of grown more of these and so was i!

[Jamie]

hey people

nathan- the crossing branch will not be as prominent as it is in the drawing, it is like that just to show a bit of depth (obviously i havent got that down pat in sketching yet )it will actually fuse into the trunk and be a lot more like a live vein as for the nebari the root work has already been started spread out nice and even so all it has to do is mature

bod- like antonio said his trees are a testiment to this method his trees are what made me try this, and when i get the chance and the stock i think a few more will be in the pipeline for sure

ant- i am constantly popping back into the two threads of yours on this to look at yours, man i wish i done this a few years back

twosdale- that is a nice one aswell

this tree even after a week or so is still showing strongs signs of growth, its like it didnt even get the bare root or the little bit of torture it went through to get wrapped up cant be happier there basic wiring of the trunk will be done in the next couple of months or so, this will one help with keeping the three trees together and let me remove some of the zip ties. it will also allow me to start getting the trunk line up the tree which i intend on using for jin
not quite sure bout pruning any foliage at the moment as i would like to keep the tree strong and healthy. to promote trunk thickening to get the fusing happening.

regards jamie

[anttal63]

well jamie the main thing is that you have done it now! the issue is to make sure that in 5 to 10 yrs you are not saying i wish i had of done more of them!
get on with it brother australia desperately needs great junipers!!!

yes growth equals fusing no 2 ways about it. you need to let these run for at least a year if not 2. minor energy balancing only and have back up plans for styling. dont get stuck exactly on the one drawing at this point in time. plan is good but you need to be flexible so the tree achieve its objecvtive. FUSING!

[Jamie]

cool mate thanks for the tips! and dont worrk, im gonna be going nuts now i have done this more to come for sure, am thinking maybe 5 to 6 seedlings for the next one!

and i wont be stuck on the same drawing as much as i love the idea if things dont work out that way we have to evolve around it, thats what bonsai is about is it not???

i will keep in mind the minor energy balancing, can i ask how you acomplish this with yours, i have a fair idea but would love to hear about how you do it i figure if i keep the low branches pushing heavy growth of them and just thining the top a bit everynow and again it will push energy to the trunks and this way accomplishing the fusing process better??

and yes, my plan was just strong growing for the next year or 2, maybe some minor wiring in that time, just for structure wise

thanks in advance for the tips

regards jamie

[anttal63]

jamie im in the process of thinking through an article on juniper squamata's. what i have learned and most importantly, experienced. energy balancing will be covered in detail. you are on the right track, like pines timing and method is of essence though. right now just allow to grow, especially dont pinch! more on that later. if you can get your hands on masters juniper series, this will help. also Boon Manakitivipart 's methods with juniper devloping are the bomb.

[Jamie]

i think we were talking about those books a while back mate with my cascade. i still havent been able to get them though, my last online purchase for a book wasnt to much fun i had to wait forever to get it (4+ weeks, after 2 weeks of waiting on top of that) i guess thats what ya can get from ebay though.

i look forward to reading the details mate thanks.

regards jamie

[anttal63]

got me goin mate. trying an experiment, just took cuttings and have taped them in 3's. see what happens. these days my success rate with juni cuttings is about 90% success.

[Jamie]

got me goin mate. trying an experiment, just took cuttings and have taped them in 3's. see what happens. these days my success rate with juni cuttings is about 90% success.

nice mate, nice, i was thinking that myself, how these junipers in the wild grow so twisted and tangled, is it possible that they could of actually been a small group of seedlings that eventually twisted and fused to each other causing the gnarly trunks and large amounts of deadwood?? are you using the thrifty cuttings container with the soft drink bottles inverted with the water down the bottom? i have just done that recently and i am hoping i get some success with it !
i will be doing the same thing if i can get them to strike aswell

[anttal63]

hey jamie anything is possible. my understandind is when deadwood is created the live veins swell putting on new wood. sometimes this can look like more than one tree fused, especially when twisting. some junipers fibres naturally spiral and others are just victims of their age and harsh enviroment.

i use collanders with a tray under them to do my cuttings. up against an east facing brick wall. works a gem!

[Jamie]

awesome mate! i think it is to windy at the moment to have my cuttings exposed, so i have gone with the no frills propagator for now as it stops wind getting at them and drying out
its amazing with al our theories that we still cant understand fully how this happens in nature exactly isnt it

i got a 4 day weekend this week so we will see what happens this weekend!!

regards jamie

[anttal63]

awesome mate! i think it is to windy at the moment to have my cuttings exposed, so i have gone with the no frills propagator for now as it stops wind getting at them and drying out
its amazing with al our theories that we still cant understand fully how this happens in nature exactly isnt it
i got a 4 day weekend this week so we will see what happens this weekend!!

regards jamie

how what happens?

[Jamie]

when deadwood is created the live veins swell putting on new wood. sometimes this can look like more than one tree fused, especially when twisting. some junipers fibres naturally spiral and others are just victims of their age and harsh enviroment.

i think i just made a mistake saying that actually from what you wrote actually sounds quite factual.... i

[anttal63]

ok between the snows that sit on them for months to the winds that spinm and smashm. the fibres break and heal in their new contortions. when a main vein dies off and the others swell to create peaks and valleys, spiralling, it may appear that more than one plant have fused. so by fusing trunks, twisting, platting, later we can kill off a trunk or part of to create such forms of live veins spiralling on our trees. it will never be the real thing but we can try and get as close as we can. only one problem? time makes things look even better.