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Re: trident groups
Posted: May 22nd, 2015, 6:22 pm
by EdwardH
I really like the winter look of this forest

Re: trident groups
Posted: May 23rd, 2015, 2:21 am
by gerald randall
Treeman
Both are great plantings. I can see that your skills have improved over the years. The use of space and proportion is great in the second planting. Creates the feeling of movement and makes me want to walk through the forest. Both are great though.
They will be the envy of many, including me.
Rgds
Re: trident groups
Posted: May 23rd, 2015, 9:41 am
by Elmar
They look great.
How do you replant them? As a group or as individual trees? If you do individuals, then how do you stop the group from changing?
Which suggests you'd move them as a group - roots entwined and all; but how then do you clean out the soil or stop the group breaking apart?
Almost sounds like a nightmare ...
Cheers
Elmar
Re: trident groups
Posted: May 23rd, 2015, 1:39 pm
by treeman
gerald randall wrote:Treeman
Both are great plantings. I can see that your skills have improved over the years. The use of space and proportion is great in the second planting. Creates the feeling of movement and makes me want to walk through the forest. Both are great though.
They will be the envy of many, including me.
Rgds
Interesting you say that. The small one was just done by eye until it looked something like I visualized. The second larger one was actually made according to a formula set out by Saburo Kato (the main 4 or 5 trees that is)
Re: trident groups
Posted: May 23rd, 2015, 1:44 pm
by treeman
CoGRedeMptioN wrote:They look great.
How do you replant them? As a group or as individual trees? If you do individuals, then how do you stop the group from changing?
Which suggests you'd move them as a group - roots entwined and all; but how then do you clean out the soil or stop the group breaking apart?
Almost sounds like a nightmare ...
Cheers
Elmar
Repot as a group. And yes it is a nightmare. When you remove enough soil they start to flop all over the place requiring lots of propping up and fiddling. The older one is getting easier every year though.
Re: trident groups
Posted: May 25th, 2015, 10:34 am
by Steven
I'd love to go for a walk through the second one Mike. Nice work, very convincing group plantings.
Regards,
Steven
Re: trident groups
Posted: May 25th, 2015, 11:02 am
by Elmar
treeman wrote:...
Repot as a group. And yes it is a nightmare. When you remove enough soil they start to flop all over the place requiring lots of propping up and fiddling. The older one is getting easier every year though.
Sounds like you need to design a "Tree Brace", one that holds the trees by their trunk while you do the dirty work! Might be to restrictive, though....
Well, I'm nowhere near being able to start a group! Still struggling with a single tree...
Cheers
EZ
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Re: trident groups
Posted: May 25th, 2015, 11:35 am
by Rory
Steven wrote:I'd love to go for a walk through the second one Mike. Nice work, very convincing group plantings.
Regards,
Steven
I completely agree. The 2nd group is by far the stand out for my preference. Very natural looking and lovely to just stare at.
A good group planting is so much more interesting than a stand alone tree.
Re: trident groups
Posted: May 29th, 2015, 5:43 pm
by Scott Roxburgh
Thanks for the update Mike, great to see it looks nice sans-leaf!
Are you going to treat the scars to encourage healing or just leave it?
If you were to make another, would you let the seedlings develop together in one pot, in groups or individually?
Re: trident groups
Posted: March 27th, 2017, 8:42 pm
by melbrackstone
Mike would it be possible to sometime get a number of views of your groups please? Front, side, back and other side please? With or without leaves... I'm just wanting to learn from your placement.

Re: trident groups
Posted: March 28th, 2017, 11:23 am
by NAHamilton
Hi Melbrackstone,
I did a bit of googling a while back after reading this
The second larger one was actually made according to a formula set out by Saburo Kato (the main 4 or 5 trees that is)
and found that the book titled Forest, Rock Planting & Ezo Spruce Bonsai by Saburo Kato is really good for creating/understanding groups.
Cheers,
Nigel
Re: trident groups
Posted: March 28th, 2017, 11:34 am
by melbrackstone
Cheers Nigel! Appreciate it!
Re: trident groups
Posted: March 28th, 2017, 11:42 am
by melbrackstone