Melaleuka johannesburg gold progression

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Brian Bishop wrote:Congratulations Neli, on your persistence with this tree. :tu2:
It's been a struggle but it looks like you may have it licked this time.
Will watch it's further progression with interest.
Cheers.........Brian
Thanks Brian...I want to fatten the leader, so it is in harmony with the trunk. Lets hope all will be well.
Did any one experience loosing branches duing root reduction/transplant on melaleukas...One of mine was drastically root reduced...half stayed very healthy and the other half died.
I know some trees have roots that feed particular branches...but not sure if mels are one of those.
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Wow Neli :clap:

You've done a very good job on this tree.

I understand when you say it is about the 'joyful process'. It is the same for me.

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Neli wrote:
Brian Bishop wrote:Congratulations Neli, on your persistence with this tree. :tu2:
It's been a struggle but it looks like you may have it licked this time.
Will watch it's further progression with interest.
Cheers.........Brian
Thanks Brian...I want to fatten the leader, so it is in harmony with the trunk. Lets hope all will be well.
Did any one experience loosing branches duing root reduction/transplant on melaleukas...One of mine was drastically root reduced...half stayed very healthy and the other half died.
I know some trees have roots that feed particular branches...but not sure if mels are one of those.
I'm far from an expert Neli, but I believe so. I was being shown a nice Mel over the weekend, and I was shown how you can follow the vein down from the branch to the root mass that supported it. It was obvious on the tree we were looking at due to the deadwood, but that was the impression I was left with.

That being said, I took in a lot over the weekend, and my head was left a bit like jelly, so I could have misinterpreted what I heard :oops:
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I think carving if fine on mels, I just don't think they are suited to the white deadwood, but more of a darker natural colour, or burnt and black (melaleuca does mean 'black and white' after all )
Exactly right. Styling artistically is great and I think you are on the right track with this tree. I like deadwood when it is used in a trees composition, although I do believe the deadwood would better suit the tree if it was stained a darker or burt black colour as seen out in the Australian bush.

Will be interested to see this trees progression.
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milly.abrahams wrote:Wow Neli :clap:

You've done a very good job on this tree.

I understand when you say it is about the 'joyful process'. It is the same for me.

K R
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Jason wrote:
Neli wrote:
Brian Bishop wrote:Congratulations Neli, on your persistence with this tree. :tu2:
It's been a struggle but it looks like you may have it licked this time.
Will watch it's further progression with interest.
Cheers.........Brian
Thanks Brian...I want to fatten the leader, so it is in harmony with the trunk. Lets hope all will be well.
Did any one experience loosing branches duing root reduction/transplant on melaleukas...One of mine was drastically root reduced...half stayed very healthy and the other half died.
I know some trees have roots that feed particular branches...but not sure if mels are one of those.
I'm far from an expert Neli, but I believe so. I was being shown a nice Mel over the weekend, and I was shown how you can follow the vein down from the branch to the root mass that supported it. It was obvious on the tree we were looking at due to the deadwood, but that was the impression I was left with.

That being said, I took in a lot over the weekend, and my head was left a bit like jelly, so I could have misinterpreted what I heard :oops:
That will be very interesting to know for sure...then better care can be taken of the root system...But from what I got I suspect it can be true. Now I have to root reduce the rest slowly.
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Re: Melaleuka johannesburg gold progression

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siddhar wrote:
I think carving if fine on mels, I just don't think they are suited to the white deadwood, but more of a darker natural colour, or burnt and black (melaleuca does mean 'black and white' after all )
Exactly right. Styling artistically is great and I think you are on the right track with this tree. I like deadwood when it is used in a trees composition, although I do believe the deadwood would better suit the tree if it was stained a darker or burt black colour as seen out in the Australian bush.

Will be interested to see this trees progression.
I am going to try and burn it ones the carving is finished, I still have to do some more...I was trying for that effect with the permanganate but after some time it lightened...
But it is dark gray at the moment...I shall maybe experiment with some wood stain later...
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I am going to try and burn it ones the carving is finished, I still have to do some more...I was trying for that effect with the permanganate but after some time it lightened...
But it is dark gray at the moment...I shall maybe experiment with some wood stain later...
You may not have to literally burn the deadwood. I have used timber stain in the past, a dark brown colour on some of my deciduous trees with no ill affects (It appears black in colour). I think there is a post on this forum somewhere which mentions the stain used and brand?
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The only problem is to find it here is impossible. I am in the jungle...he he he!
But will try to look if I go abroad...Just dont say pay pall...he he he...jungle... :lol: :palm:
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