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Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: October 9th, 2012, 5:41 pm
by Grant Bowie
Hi Stephen,
Thanks for suggesting the expnding of this thread.
One observation is the use of the hanging/underneath branches by Mr lin. You should not over fertilise or you will get too much growth, too much foliage, too much shade and then lose or weaken the lower/hanging branches.
I transfered the penjing inthe very shallow pot into a slightly deeper pot as it already looked thirsty. I slip potted it only. The mix is very fine.
Grant
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 15th, 2015, 9:10 am
by Steven
Thought I'd update this thread after defoliating and trimming last night. I removed the wire I had put on last winter as well as removing a couple of small branches.
90% of people really don't like the hanging branch and suggest taking it off.
Anyone else have any updates on Mr. Lin's tree's?
2015 July A.jpg
Regards,
Steven
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 15th, 2015, 9:59 am
by Grant Bowie
Thats looking really good. Keep the hanging branch for sure!!!
Grant
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 15th, 2015, 1:54 pm
by thoglette
Steven wrote:90% of people really don't like the hanging branch and suggest taking it off.
90% of people are schooled in the Japanese way. Some chinese schools think hanging branches are desirable.
wcrmad posted an example
herein another thread
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 15th, 2015, 2:31 pm
by Jarad
thoglette wrote:Steven wrote:90% of people really don't like the hanging branch and suggest taking it off.
90% of people are schooled in the Japanese way. Some chinese schools think hanging branches are desirable.
wcrmad posted an example
herein another thread
How often do you see a perfect tree in nature anyway? The little imperfections make them look more natural.
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 15th, 2015, 2:43 pm
by Gerard
ulmus parvifolia.jpg
This is one I got hold of about 5 years ago.
064.jpg
Another which was on display at the BSV annual show a few years ago. I believe this still belongs to the Lin family
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 15th, 2015, 2:48 pm
by dansai
If you were going to take the hanging branch you would also have to take the trunk like branch above it going straight up and you would be left with a standard semi cascade. Awesome, and perfect, the way it is.
Interestingly this thread led me to look at the threads linked above on Penjing and I saw a few comments about Chinese styling to be "grotesque" or extreme and Japanese to be Natural. I've never seen a Black Pine in nature before, but I have seen photos and not one has looked anything like a Black Pine Bonsai.
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 15th, 2015, 2:50 pm
by dansai
Love that semi cascade. The way the trunk just wanders along so flowingly and at peace. Beautiful.
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 15th, 2015, 3:25 pm
by Grant Bowie
Gerard wrote:ulmus parvifolia.jpg
This is one I got hold of about 5 years ago.
064.jpg
Another which was on display at the BSV annual show a few years ago. I believe this still belongs to the Lin family
The cascade Penjing is on display at the NBPCA currently.
grant
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 15th, 2015, 3:39 pm
by Boics
Steven wrote:Thought I'd update this thread after defoliating and trimming last night. I removed the wire I had put on last winter as well as removing a couple of small branches.
90% of people really don't like the hanging branch and suggest taking it off.
Anyone else have any updates on Mr. Lin's tree's?
2015 July A.jpg
Regards,
Steven
I sit in the 10% forum and vote a resounding "NO" to removing the hanging branch!
Lovely tree Steven!
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 15th, 2015, 4:30 pm
by two40
Jarad wrote:thoglette wrote:Steven wrote:90% of people really don't like the hanging branch and suggest taking it off.
90% of people are schooled in the Japanese way. Some chinese schools think hanging branches are desirable.
wcrmad posted an example
herein another thread
How often do you see a perfect tree in nature anyway? The little imperfections make them look more natural.
Couldn't agree more.
I'm relatively new to Bonsai so my naivete might be showing but a lot of the examples I'm seeing from the very experienced artists are too clinically perfect. I do like small imperfections; just like mother nature has, just like we all possess.
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 15th, 2015, 6:42 pm
by dansai
Why is the hanging branch considered an imperfection
Isn't it part of the design
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 15th, 2015, 7:02 pm
by Rory
The answer to your question Steven, of whether to keep the hanging branch should be sung by the new kids on the block:
"Hangin' tough, hangin' tough, we're rough!
Everybody's always talkin' 'Bout what's on top
Yo! Check it out!
Hangin' tough"
...sigh
sorry guys. I found 1.21 giggawatts and took a delorian back to 1988.... let the good times roll.
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 15th, 2015, 7:16 pm
by Andrew F
It's fantastic the way it is.
Re: Penjing from the collection of Mr. Hong Lin
Posted: July 16th, 2015, 4:58 pm
by Jarad
dansai wrote:Why is the hanging branch considered an imperfection
Isn't it part of the design
I guess imperfection was the wrong word. The branch "looks" out of place, but gives it a more natural feel and I like it.